Righeimer Wants A "Charter City"
RIGHEIMER DROPS THE BOMB
At the very tail end of a much-longer-than-expected Costa Mesa City Council meeting Tuesday night - after all but a handful of observers had departed and local reporters had already filed their stories - Mayor Pro Tem Jim Righeimer detonated what amounted to a nuclear device in the council chambers - he called for contract City Attorney Tom Duarte to bring back "in writing" the process it would take to convert Costa Mesa from a General Law City to a Charter City in time for that measure to be placed on the June ballot.
TRYING TO CIRCUMVENT THE JUDGE
In his preamble to this demand it was clear that he was frustrated by the lawsuit that has produced a temporary injunction which ties the City's hands with regard to outsourcing
certain city functions to private companies and wants to use the "Charter City" scheme to circumvent the legal process. Righeimer griped that the opposition "was trying to run out the clock, get to another city council and see what we can do." He whined about not being able to do "what every other city can do" with regard to outsourcing because, as he said, "We didn't do anything wrong." Well, apparently Judge Barbara Tam Nomoto Schumann feels otherwise, since it was she - after reviewing the case - who issued the injunction. As it stands right now, a court date of April 9, 2012 has been set for the lawsuit.
SOME REFERENCES
So, what does this "Charter City" thing mean to us? Well, there are lots of informative sites available to us on the internet to answer most of the questions - some of which I expect Tom Duarte will use in his response to the council. You can visit the State of California site, HERE, for the nuts and bolts. You can also visit the League of California Cities site, HERE, for an easy-to-use reference.
SOME LOCAL CHARTER CITIES
Among the interesting things you'll find out is that about one quarter of all California cities - 120 - are Charter cities, including our neighbors in Huntington Beach, Newport Beach, Irvine, Santa Ana and Anaheim. Perhaps the most infamous Charter city is Bell, where officials, including City Manager Robert Rizzo, used the flexibility of their charter to basically gut the city financially.
SOME FACTS
Here are a few interesting - and scary - facts about Charter Cities vs. General Law Cities provided by the California League of Cities: (The emphasis is mine.)
"SUPREME AUTHORITY"
The California Constitution gives cities the power to become charter cities. The benefit of becoming a charter city is that charter cities have supreme authority over "municipal affairs". In other words, a charter city's law concerning a municipal affair will trump a state law governing the same topic.
OPEN-ENDED
A city charter, in effect a city's constitution, need not set out every municipal affair the city would like to govern. So long as the charter contains the declaration that the city intends to avail itself of the full power provided by the California Constitution, any city ordinance that regulates a municipal affair will govern over a general law of the state.
A "MUNICIPAL AFFAIR"
Determining what is and is not a "municipal affair" is not always straightforward. The California Constitution does not define "municipal affair". It does, however, set out a nonexclusive list of four "core" categories that are, by definition, municipal affairs.
1) Regulation of the "city police force"
2) Subgovernment in all or part of a city
3) Conduct of city elections
4) The manner in which municipal officers are elected
SOME COURT DECISIONS
Beyond that list it is up to the courts to determine what is and is not a municipal affair. The concept of "municipal affairs" is fluid and may change over time. Issues that are municipal affairs today could become areas of statewide concern in the future. Nonetheless, there are some areas that courts have consistently classified as municipal affairs. These include:
1) Municipal election matters
2) Land use and zoning decisions (with some exceptions)
3) How a city spends its tax dollars
4) Municipal contracts, provided the charter or a city ordinance exempts the city from the Public Contract Code, and the subject matter of the bid constitutes a municipal affair. Thus, a charter may exempt a city from the State's competitive bidding statutes.
YOU CAN ALMOST SEE THEM DROOL...
So, can you see why Righeimer and his cronies are salivating to convert our city from a General Law City to a Charter City? It gives them the ability to exercise absolute control over almost every single element of our municipal government - and how it affects each of us.
THE FIRST CHOICE
There are two ways for a city to become a Charter City. The first, which seems to be much more cumbersome, is for the electorate to vote on whether it wants to establish a "charter commission". That can be done by the city council deciding to elect a charter commission or by a petiti
on signed by at least 15% of registered voters. Candidates must be nominated and then the vote is taken, deciding first IF a charter commission shall be elected. If that passes, the top 15 vote-getters become the commission and will be responsible for developing the city's charter.
WHAT WILL HAPPEN
The alternative - which is obviously the way this particular power-hungry council will go - is for the council to develop and draft the charter, then place it on the ballot, where a majority of the voters must vote in favor for it to become effective. The council could call a special election or have it appear on the ballot of a regularly scheduled election.
IT MAY BE TIME TO MOVE ON...
Just when you thought things couldn't possibly get any worse... If this council, with it's disregard for the rules and willingness to make up "facts" as they go, successfully converts our city to a Charter City and has the power during that process to codify their run-and-gun style as the rule of law in our city, the potential for abuse and corruption is undeniable.
NO STOPPING THEM!
Currently the council must follow the state laws that apply to running a city. If they form a Charter City - and write the charter on which all municipal governance is based - our city and the contracts which form much of the foundation for our operations will be at great risk. If they are able to circumvent the legal orders by a Superior Court judge, then what we thought was heavy-handedness on their part before will become codified governance by sledgehammer.
IT'S A MATTER OF TRUST
Yes, over 100 cities in this state successfully operate as Charter cities, but they're not presently governed by this mob. This all boils down to a matter of trust and I just don't trust this city council to do what is best for our city.
GUTTED RFPS AUTHORIZED FOR RELEASE
What about the rest of the meeting? Yes, they authorized the issuance of the four
RFPs on the agenda, but only after disemboweling the Fleet Maintenance item to the point where we were left wondering just who would end up doing the work they extracted from the proposal. Righeimer led that charge, too, chopping out page after page of content. He seemed not the least bit concerned about how that work would get done.
RE-HEARING NEXT MONTH
After 90 minutes
of discussion they also shoved off for a month the issue of the renovation of the apartment complex on Country Club Drive, responding to very significant resident outcry at the loss of the lake and major safety concerns. That item will be re-visited by the staff and the developer using many of the concerns expressed last night as guidelines to see what kind of compromises might be found.
NO SMOKING...
And, they passed the ordinance prohibiting smoking at athletic facilities and within
50 feet of public parks. Steve Mensinger requested that the use of smokeless tobacco not be included, so I guess we can expect to see him and his cronies and their kids spitting tobacco juice without fear of reprisal by law enforcement.
MONAHAN OVERLOOKED HATCH
Mayor Gary Monahan, once again, got so disoriented by his juggling of the schedule that he completely forgot to have CEO Tom Hatch present his report to the city. That's too bad, because there are many issues pending that he likely would have addressed for us last night. I guess we'll just have to wait for his E-Briefing Friday.
At the very tail end of a much-longer-than-expected Costa Mesa City Council meeting Tuesday night - after all but a handful of observers had departed and local reporters had already filed their stories - Mayor Pro Tem Jim Righeimer detonated what amounted to a nuclear device in the council chambers - he called for contract City Attorney Tom Duarte to bring back "in writing" the process it would take to convert Costa Mesa from a General Law City to a Charter City in time for that measure to be placed on the June ballot.TRYING TO CIRCUMVENT THE JUDGE
In his preamble to this demand it was clear that he was frustrated by the lawsuit that has produced a temporary injunction which ties the City's hands with regard to outsourcing
certain city functions to private companies and wants to use the "Charter City" scheme to circumvent the legal process. Righeimer griped that the opposition "was trying to run out the clock, get to another city council and see what we can do." He whined about not being able to do "what every other city can do" with regard to outsourcing because, as he said, "We didn't do anything wrong." Well, apparently Judge Barbara Tam Nomoto Schumann feels otherwise, since it was she - after reviewing the case - who issued the injunction. As it stands right now, a court date of April 9, 2012 has been set for the lawsuit.SOME REFERENCES
So, what does this "Charter City" thing mean to us? Well, there are lots of informative sites available to us on the internet to answer most of the questions - some of which I expect Tom Duarte will use in his response to the council. You can visit the State of California site, HERE, for the nuts and bolts. You can also visit the League of California Cities site, HERE, for an easy-to-use reference.SOME LOCAL CHARTER CITIES
Among the interesting things you'll find out is that about one quarter of all California cities - 120 - are Charter cities, including our neighbors in Huntington Beach, Newport Beach, Irvine, Santa Ana and Anaheim. Perhaps the most infamous Charter city is Bell, where officials, including City Manager Robert Rizzo, used the flexibility of their charter to basically gut the city financially.
SOME FACTS
Here are a few interesting - and scary - facts about Charter Cities vs. General Law Cities provided by the California League of Cities: (The emphasis is mine.)
"SUPREME AUTHORITY"
The California Constitution gives cities the power to become charter cities. The benefit of becoming a charter city is that charter cities have supreme authority over "municipal affairs". In other words, a charter city's law concerning a municipal affair will trump a state law governing the same topic.
OPEN-ENDED
A city charter, in effect a city's constitution, need not set out every municipal affair the city would like to govern. So long as the charter contains the declaration that the city intends to avail itself of the full power provided by the California Constitution, any city ordinance that regulates a municipal affair will govern over a general law of the state.
A "MUNICIPAL AFFAIR"
Determining what is and is not a "municipal affair" is not always straightforward. The California Constitution does not define "municipal affair". It does, however, set out a nonexclusive list of four "core" categories that are, by definition, municipal affairs.
1) Regulation of the "city police force"
2) Subgovernment in all or part of a city
3) Conduct of city elections
4) The manner in which municipal officers are elected
SOME COURT DECISIONS
Beyond that list it is up to the courts to determine what is and is not a municipal affair. The concept of "municipal affairs" is fluid and may change over time. Issues that are municipal affairs today could become areas of statewide concern in the future. Nonetheless, there are some areas that courts have consistently classified as municipal affairs. These include:
1) Municipal election matters
2) Land use and zoning decisions (with some exceptions)
3) How a city spends its tax dollars
4) Municipal contracts, provided the charter or a city ordinance exempts the city from the Public Contract Code, and the subject matter of the bid constitutes a municipal affair. Thus, a charter may exempt a city from the State's competitive bidding statutes.
YOU CAN ALMOST SEE THEM DROOL...
So, can you see why Righeimer and his cronies are salivating to convert our city from a General Law City to a Charter City? It gives them the ability to exercise absolute control over almost every single element of our municipal government - and how it affects each of us.THE FIRST CHOICE
There are two ways for a city to become a Charter City. The first, which seems to be much more cumbersome, is for the electorate to vote on whether it wants to establish a "charter commission". That can be done by the city council deciding to elect a charter commission or by a petiti
on signed by at least 15% of registered voters. Candidates must be nominated and then the vote is taken, deciding first IF a charter commission shall be elected. If that passes, the top 15 vote-getters become the commission and will be responsible for developing the city's charter.WHAT WILL HAPPEN
The alternative - which is obviously the way this particular power-hungry council will go - is for the council to develop and draft the charter, then place it on the ballot, where a majority of the voters must vote in favor for it to become effective. The council could call a special election or have it appear on the ballot of a regularly scheduled election.
IT MAY BE TIME TO MOVE ON...
Just when you thought things couldn't possibly get any worse... If this council, with it's disregard for the rules and willingness to make up "facts" as they go, successfully converts our city to a Charter City and has the power during that process to codify their run-and-gun style as the rule of law in our city, the potential for abuse and corruption is undeniable.NO STOPPING THEM!
Currently the council must follow the state laws that apply to running a city. If they form a Charter City - and write the charter on which all municipal governance is based - our city and the contracts which form much of the foundation for our operations will be at great risk. If they are able to circumvent the legal orders by a Superior Court judge, then what we thought was heavy-handedness on their part before will become codified governance by sledgehammer.
IT'S A MATTER OF TRUST
Yes, over 100 cities in this state successfully operate as Charter cities, but they're not presently governed by this mob. This all boils down to a matter of trust and I just don't trust this city council to do what is best for our city.GUTTED RFPS AUTHORIZED FOR RELEASE
What about the rest of the meeting? Yes, they authorized the issuance of the four
RFPs on the agenda, but only after disemboweling the Fleet Maintenance item to the point where we were left wondering just who would end up doing the work they extracted from the proposal. Righeimer led that charge, too, chopping out page after page of content. He seemed not the least bit concerned about how that work would get done.RE-HEARING NEXT MONTH
After 90 minutes
of discussion they also shoved off for a month the issue of the renovation of the apartment complex on Country Club Drive, responding to very significant resident outcry at the loss of the lake and major safety concerns. That item will be re-visited by the staff and the developer using many of the concerns expressed last night as guidelines to see what kind of compromises might be found.NO SMOKING...
And, they passed the ordinance prohibiting smoking at athletic facilities and within
50 feet of public parks. Steve Mensinger requested that the use of smokeless tobacco not be included, so I guess we can expect to see him and his cronies and their kids spitting tobacco juice without fear of reprisal by law enforcement.MONAHAN OVERLOOKED HATCH
Mayor Gary Monahan, once again, got so disoriented by his juggling of the schedule that he completely forgot to have CEO Tom Hatch present his report to the city. That's too bad, because there are many issues pending that he likely would have addressed for us last night. I guess we'll just have to wait for his E-Briefing Friday.Labels: Charter City, Gary Monahan, Jim Righeimer, Steve Mensinger, Tom Duarte, Tom Hatch, Wendy Leece
posted by The Pot Stirrer at 11/02/2011 01:54:00 AM
48 Comments:
"Well, apparently Judge Barbara Tam Nomoto Schumann feels otherwise, since it was she - after reviewing the case - who issued the injunction." No, Geoff, the judge did not decide that the city did anything wrong, she only decided there was sufficient evidence to stop the layoff process until each side could present its case. Big difference. You made (another) mistake here, but like your false accusation of Mensinger's business bankruptcy involvement, I doubt we'll see any correction.
P.S. Then you have this hilarious entry: "If this council, with it's disregard for the rules and willingness to make up "facts" as they go..." You should talk. But you don't stop at being wrong, you drag minor children into it, too - this time by predicting that kids will be chewing tobacco on city property. Stretch the truth all you want, but leave kids out of it.
How much will this stunt cost us? Legal fees? election costs? Riggy continues to use city funds to fund his political publicity campaign.
And here I was always under the impression that Republicans were for LESS government. These guys are amazing. We really need to find some decent candidates for the next election and put an end to this charade.
So now we know Riggy's hero is Rizzo and he wants our city to be like Bell... WOW!!
Ok, can we all agree at least that we do not want to have a city council with almost unlimited power as a charter city would give them... No way!! Especially with this group.
If Riggy get's his way and puts it on a ballot I say we add every council member's name who is for the charter city onto the same election ballot for recall vote.
This Council disgusts me! They will not stop until our City files bankruptcy due to all the unnecessary legal fees associated with their illegal outsourcing scam. In the end, thy will lose. Just like John Moorlach lost.
If they think residents will vote to change to a Charter City, they have another thing coming. After the Bell scandal and after seeing how morally and ethically bankrupt the councilmen are, they are dreaming if they think residents will vote to give them complete control like Bell.
Dream on Messy Piggy! We will go door to door to door to stop you! I'm starting to think these guys get a kick out of wasting our tax revenues. Hmm...what can we waste money on today?! Let's see how stupid the residents are and try to change to a charter city! And Gary! Why don't you run again!
What utterly moronic fools we have on council.
Stay strong Wendy! These clowns will be gone next year!
Wrong... The teenage kids already smoke and chew tobacco at many city parks. Have you been around the ballfields and skatepark lately? I guess you don't go to too many parks in Costa Mesa. This new ordinance is unenforceable anyway.
A charter city has its pros and cons. A charter commission is absolutley essential to ensure there is not an abuse of power like what happened in Bell. If residents of Costa Mesa are so blind to what power hungry Righeimer wants to accomplish, then they get what they deserve. It still baffles me that there ar still people that support this man. I am all for pension reform, but Righeimer wants much more than that. He is not here to save Costa Mesa. Everytime he opens his mouth, he makes that perfectly clear.
To: All Trolls
From: Your Charter Riggmarshal
Re: Talking Points 11/3/11
West dumb, lies about meeting, lies about Menssy and Riggy
Charter city GREAT IDEA! BEST THING SINCE INVENTION OF BUFFET!
West, not Menssy and Riggy drag children into politics (WEST steal signs for $1.00 reward not Menssy Minions)
Charter city GREAT IDEA! BEST THING SINCE INVENTION OF BUFFET!
Rizzo good guy, goes to buffet with Riggy, both simply misunderstood.
Charter city GREAT IDEA!....
There's a school of thought on human affairs that says there's nothing new under the sun.
GW re Riggmarshal proclamation of 11/1/11:
"..he called for contract City Attorney Tom Duarte to bring back "in writing" the process it would take to convert Costa Mesa from a General Law City to a Charter City in time for that measure to be placed on the June ballot...
..In his preamble to this demand it was clear that he was frustrated by the lawsuit that has produced a temporary injunction which ties the City's hands with regard to outsourcing certain city functions to private companies and wants to use the "Charter City" scheme to circumvent the legal process. Righeimer griped that the opposition "was trying to run out the clock, get to another city council and see what we can do."
From "The Battle of Moscow":
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Moscow
"The original German invasion plan, which the Axis called Operation Barbarossa, called for the capture of Moscow within four months. However, despite large initial advances, the Wehrmacht was slowed by Soviet resistance, in particular during the Battle of Smolensk, which lasted from July to August, 1941. At this stage, Moscow was vulnerable, but Hitler ordered the attack to turn south and eliminate Russian forces at Kiev"
Mensinger's self serving agenda, 10 k for football.
2nd hand smoke is bad, 2nd hand "chew" is worse. ask a dentist about oral cancer for kids.Keep promoting it steve , it's all about the kids.
Smokers and chewers are pigs. Guess where the butts go when they throw them out the window of their cars. The ocean. It is a ticketable offense. No cops left to enforce it. Will the outsource company clean up the spit or provide spitoons.
Maybe as a charter city riggy can order mensy to rfp it to the highest bidder.
Charter City is actually a very good idea. It makes it easier to get things done, including increasing revenue. I want more info. Disappointed that the Pot Stirrer simply chose to trash this idea off the cuff with no real information or research to back it up.
Actually, Barry P., I gave you lots of information, quoted directly from the League of California Cities web site. Check it out yourself by Googling "California Charter City".
In the wrong hands, a Charter City is as close as you can get to a dictatorship in this country. The City of Bell taught us that.
Here is a list of all Charter Cities in California. Some of these cities have been involved in major corruption issues becauses there was not any State oversight. Bell was just the most recent. Do some research and make up your own minds. Remember that Righeimer's agenda is self serving. This is why the charter has be written to have the necessary checks and balances to avoid abuses of power. Do you really want a council majority to have ultimate power in making decisions that will have lasting effects on the city? Something to think about. Charter Cities in California...
Adelanto, Alameda, Albany, Alhambra, Anaheim, Arcadia, Bakersfield, Bell, Berkeley, Big Bear Lake, Burbank, Cerritos, Chico, Chula Vista, Compton, Culver City, Cypress, Del Mar, Downey, Eureka, Folsom, Fresno, Gilroy, Glendale, Grass Valley, Hayward, Huntington Beach, Industry, Inglewood, Irvine,
Irwindale, Loma Linda, Long Beach, Los Alamitos, Los Angeles, Marysville, Merced, Modesto, Monterey, Mountain View, Napa, Needles, Newport Beach, Norco, Oakland, Oroville, Pacific Grove, Palo Alto, Pasadena, Petaluma,
Piedmont, Placentia, Pomona, Porterville, Redondo Beach,
Redwood City, Richmond, Riverside,
Roseville, Sacramento, Salinas,
San Bernardino, San Diego, San Francisco, San Jose, San Leandro,
San Luis Obispo, San Mateo, San Rafael, Sand City, Santa Ana,
Santa Barbara, Santa Clara, Santa Cruz, Santa Monica, Santa Rosa,
Seal Beach, Stockton, Sunnyvale, Temple City, Torrance, Tulare, Vallejo, Ventura, Vernon, Visalia,
Watsonville, & Whittier.
Wrong again, grow a spine.
If you really believe what you write then use your name.
You bash West but have no balls!
You remind me of that dipsh*t Marty the bigot.
Interesting. The only one's strongly opposed the Charter City talk are the unions. They have the most to lose when Costa Mesans gain local control over their city, as opposed to relying on Sacramento's broken system. Just read union thug Jennifer Muir's comments in the OC Register.
It will be interesting to see if this gets on the ballot what the unions will spend to defeat it. That will only make Costa Mesa voters want it more! The idea intrigues me. More local control for my City. Seems to work in Newport Beach and Irvine. Can't wait to hear more
Oops when I copied the list of cities, I missed a few. Here are the other Charter Cities. I hope I got them all.
Oceanside,Vista, Buena Park, La Quinta, Lancaster, Lemoore, Lindsay, Palm Springs, Palm Desert,Indian Wells, El Centro, Desert Hot Springs, Dinuba, Fortuna, King City, Kingsburg, Marina,Port Hueneme,Rancho Mirage,San Marcos,Santee, Shafter,Signal Hill, Solvang, Truckee,& Woodlake.
Another thing about Charter Cities. Two unique cities; Norco and Solvang, became Charter Cities in order to preserve their unique cities from outside influences. In Norco's case it had to do with preserving animal keeping. In Solvang it was to preserve its Danish character. It wasn't about ultimate authority of the city council. In Bell's case the opposite was true. It all comes down to how the charter is written. If this goes to voters, the residents need to pay close attention and read the charter carefully. Not just blindly believe a over ambitious political hack.
Dear "A Real Costa Mesa Resident," that is not true about unions opposing Charter Cities. Some of the most union powerful cities are Charter Cities. Unions do not lose power, just because a city is a Charter City. Even Vallejo, the city that went bankrupt, was a Charter City. Many cities become charter cities to limit the control of outside influences coming on the City Council and promoting their own agenda. Other than Bell,Vernon, and a few others, most were written to limit what a city council can do. Residents were smart to insure that they have the ultimate say in what goes on in their city and how much power a City Council has. Many Charter Cities elect their representation in wards or districts to insure equal representation city wide. Quit spewing Righeimer's agenda and think for yourself. Actually do some research if you are "A Real Costa Mesa Resident."
Becoming a charter city would be fantastic for Costa mesa, as it would be free to chart its own course. Whining about Righeimer is just dumb, councils come and go, the charter city status will remain to Costa Mesa's benefit.
Unions and collective bargaining have no place in municipal affairs - the citizens are on the hook for the bad contract decisions of politicians who have historically been in the pockets of unions. If becoming a charter city provides the flexibility the unions despise, it can only benefit the citizens and businesses.
I am wondering why Righeimer is pushing the charter city thing now? Does he think the city is going to lose its lawsuit with the employees? He sounds like he is getting desperate? Why not let the lawsuit for forward and see what happens. Surely with all those lawyers on board, the city can't lose.
You vote for one Council seat in your own district (some cities you vote for one other out of your district) and everyone votes for a Mayor.
Gary has been trying to do this for years. He would love nothing more than to be Mayor for life.
This would also get Stevey in for 4 more years; he would have a better chance of winning a district than a city wide vote.
Would everyone need to run for their district again; would we need to start over? How would you blend half of the council completing their term (2 more years) and the others as a District Representative?
I just can't see any upside to being a charter city, giving this corrupt regime even more control over our lives and city finances. Sadly I'm starting to think maybe it's simply time to find a better place to live.
I was buying gas yesterday on the corner of Victoria and Harbor. I watched numerous transients and parolee types wander past and I kept thinking, with all these ratty motels, hobos,junkies and parolees wandering our streets why does this council choose to gut public safety and other needed services? With all this blight and filth they choose to fight the employees? It's more and more obvious they care nothing about this community or the residents.
The citizens of costa Mesa could learn a lot from the citizens of Libya.
AWM:
"The citizens of Costa Mesa could learn a lot from the citizens of Libya."
Me:
No, GW, I won't try to post the Gaddhafi video again.. :)
Angry White Man, don't let the door hit you on the way out.
How about Righeimer's point that the City is now following the procedure outlined in City policies and doing everything properly, but the union isn't dropping the lawsuit?
He's right, and the union is now solely responsible for costing the city hundreds of thousands, maybe millions of dollars.
Reality bites.
Hey, Geoff - Mr. Brent's comment is disgusting. I thought you were going to forbid these. I am disappointed to see that reference here.
@Reality Bites
"Angry White Man, don't let the door hit you on the way out."
Wow, tough talk there buddy!
Well, I'm sure the minimum wage city jobs will open up as soon as the council has this city become a charter city.
Since you are so in favor of any employee who is not happy with where the city is heading "not letting the door hit them on the way out", which job will you apply for since you seem so concerned with the city?
So the city is 'now following the procedures'? Maybe they should have tried that from the get-go, rather than going off half-cocked (pun definitely intended). Vote them ALL OUT!
Reality, wrong again. Riggy is not following the rules according to city policy. Just because he said he is or really because he said it you know he is not. It is no coincidence that he has the city involved in litigation, he has a rich history of not abiding by contracts. Anybody that thinks this guy cares about community is not qualified to comment with any kind of believability, he is simply a carpet bagger out for himself. Watch what happens with Dave Elis and other friends of Riggy and you'll see where he is headed.
Please remove, would you like some whine to go with your cheese?
Reality bites...Just because Righeimer says it, does not make it true. I know you have a hard time grasping that. If the city had followed proper procedures and the law, no lawsuits would of been filed. The city caused the lawsuit, not the union. I know you are directed to come on here and say otherwise, but it just makes you look like a fool.
"Wrong again" is mistaken. In order to issue a preliminary injunction, the court must find that (1)the party requesting the injunction is likely to prevail at trial and (2)the injunction is necessary to prevent irreparable harm.
being infatuated with everything Mensinger can cause a blogger to wrongully say where the apartments in the agenda item are actually located. they are not on country club drive, mensingers street. catch the tape for real address. the usual suspects must be stunned today, haha. Council many steps ahead of you while genis distracted by shiny objects (or smelly ones too). did u catch her say " i wasn't going to talk about this" and then look down at her notes and proceed to read from them? weird.
Don't stop!
The strategy is great. The Unions have been lapped in thinking. They think they are not far behind.
I would disclose what I think the strategy is. But it is more fun to watch it revealed in June and November. Some still will not know what happened.
Go Riggy
So Norco wanted to stay a horse community and Solvang wanted to maintain their Danish heritage. To me, two good reasons to adopt charter city status.
So tell me why CM should do this. The OCC hot springs are dried up, thats all this city had. Dont say to avoid the lawsuit.
If Riggy wants to charter just to get his way, then get him out now. he will be gone in 4 years or less, yet the city will have to live with his demise for centuries.
On a side note, I like the district representation aspect.
A second issue is that Riggy will somehow load up 10-15 of his closest friends and they will get elected to draft the charter papers.
nevernervous--- Sandy writes notes as the meeting proceeds , then speaks from the notes. You can say what you want about Madam Genis, but when it comes to her experience with city planning issues, understanding EIR's, city ordinances, and such...many many cities actually hire her for what she does here for free. She's a Stanford educated City Planner and writes many cities ordinances for them. In one city " cough" Newport Beach..they consider her quite formidable. Not too mention she has a lot of institutional knowledge regarding city history. Something that is sorely lacking these days.
Fact is.....we, and your beloved Council wouldn't be in this mess had they listened to us from the start and just did the studies first.Nobody is against saving the city money while improving services.....NOBODY.
We are against the WAY they are doing it. It's stupid. It's illegal. It alienates the staff you need to get the job done. It costs WAAAAAY TOOO MUUCH, to hire consultants that don't care how it works out eventually, and at the end of the day.......we will probably be paying more for a lot less.
Fact is, they are still screwing up releasing the RFP's because no studies have been done. Thats why they will probably lose the lawsuit.
They are wasting so much time......all because they wanted to do the "Layoffs" first. What a bunch of buffoons. Thats why none of them run companies.They're inept.
but you aren't nervous.......you like it.
Don't stop being a fool Jimmy!
Keep on going!
Beat Costa Mesa back into vegetable fields!
Keep stuffing your little face!
Give everyone a Mensinger Sheriff Badge!
Jimbo has a secret plan I'm not telling any of you little people about.
When the Fairgrounds are condos and Costa Mesa is a Charter Fiefdom, you and the unions will see!
Looks like the council's hired hands are posting. I doubt making online posts shows up on their media consultants bills.
Geri in the cult, I agree with you.
Madam Genis takes lots of notes. She typically hands them to Wendy Leece so Wendy can mumble through the scripted comments to an embarrassing level. Do you think Wendy wrote the reasons to call up the Apartment for review? No, that was verbatim Sandy Genis comments.
Funny how all here want to attack Council, but give such an unwarranted free pass to 4-1 Leece.
The Bias shows.
If the City listened to Greg Ridge and Sandy Genis, Costa Mesa would be in the position of Santa Ana, True dat my liberal union hugging misguided illogical commenters.
By the way. Isn’t this Judge a Liberal kook appointed by same?
Gericault, you screwed up too with the repair cm ads and their lies. I know eir's myself and am SEC educated and probably get paid more than her to review eir's though i don't write them, my staff does. maybe i hired her inadvertantly at some point in time through staff, hope not. i have watched genis and she is often wrong, takes things out of context, and hardly ever wins her argument. she is a no growther who will spin the story. formidable? eh, no. in HB she is laughed at except for cook, shaw, and boardman. is she irritating?, yes. she likes to be, so score one for her. right on the fairgrounds? definitely. she seems to have a following of seven or eight people who appreciate her obvious intelligence and blindly follow her lead. they should meet other, more intelligent, consensus builder type people to follow. but since both sides screwed up from the beginning lets go to the table and save some city workers jobs and cut pensions for public safety. how about that?
How come other Cities can outsource but Costa Mesa cannot? Where are all these people who object on the topic of Santa Ana? Or Any other City around Costa Mesa? Why do you not see the level of complaints?
Why doesn't Geoff West, and his band of merry followers, get off the backs of the city council members and do something truly worthwhile for a change?
People all across the country are suffering from abuse by the banks. They are unable to earn any interest on their savings accounts and certificates of deposit, on top of getting hit with ridiculous fees and credit card interest rates. Rape by bank is occurring constantly while you guys do nothing but whine about inconsequential matters.
Suggestion: Why don't all of you put your collective heads together and start a movement to get the banks in this country under control again?
That would be a worthwhile investment of your time and trouble. It would probably even bring you fame and fortune.
Righeimer's decision to turn a neighborhood park into a joint venture restaurant and bar is reason enough to give Righeimer the boot. Same with his anti-business tactics trying to shutdown the Harbor Blvd. of Cars and ruin SoBeCa. Same with his commie Irvine vision for Costa Mesa. This just takes it to a whole new level by trying to cover up his reckless mistakes and getting us into a lawsuit.
I doubt Riggy would get many votes today if everyone knew the truth.
Although Riggy isn't up for re-election, I can at least get the satisfaction of not voting for Monahan, Mensinger, or McCarthy since they are just as tainted.
Charter City? Why don't you just change the name of your City to Bell Mesa since you already have the esteemed Jim RIZHEIMER running the show? It would be cheaper. Yea, you should be fine......
Last time I check "SEC" was known for football and not for academics. Wait, I'm sorry, they are known for academics in terms of cheating, lying, and bribery. Your education is perfect for Costa Mesa in that case.
banging my head...What school is SEC? Was Nevernervous talking about USC? If he is, I doubt he was a graduate. Maybe he graduated from one of those buy a degree programs you see on TV.
SEC-Securities and Exchange Commission--the guys who were supposed to protect us from the Madoff's of this world. They don't have anything to do with CEQA-California Environmental Quality Act, though. I guess "nervous" was trying to support his expertise in Environmental law. Other than an embarassing plea that we should all be very impressed with Nervous's anonymous claims of accomplishments, he seemed to ramble all over the place. Add insecure to nervous, but if he wants more cred he should be less "transparent" about his insecurities.
I assumed SEC school was in reference to the Southeastern Conference - which is known more for football than anything else (um, little game Sat. between #1 Alabama and #2 LSU). That explains a lot about that guy's mentality...
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