Wednesday, November 14, 2012

The Triangle Signs - Half A Loaf

Last night the Costa Mesa Planning Commission approved the use of vinyl signage on a 300 square foot location at the Newport Boulevard/Harbor Boulevard corner of that star-crossed shopping venue.  That's the short version of events.  You can read Bradley Zint's account of the event from the Daily Pilot HERE.

In the past couple weeks Eastside neighbors have become incensed at the possibility that the commission would cave in to the current owners of The Triangle (formerly Triangle Square) and permit them to sell so-called "off premises" advertising on two locations on the building - the aforementioned southwest facing 300 square foot site and the 600 square foot wrap-around site that faces the terminus of the 55 Freeway as it emerges from the ditch at 19th Street.

Activists complained - see Katie Arthur's excellent letter from the Daily Pilot, HERE -  that permitting such ads opens a Pandora's Box because once such signage is permitted, because of 1st Amendment considerations,  it would be impossible to control the nature of the messages delivered by the signs.  The complaints of the specter of condom ads and other equally offensive signs apparently caught the ear of several commission members and Don Lamm, the representative of the owners, Greenlaw Partners, because he withdrew the request for off-premises signage at the beginning of the presentation.  Lamm is a former Costa Mesa employee - an executive in the Planning Department and former City Manager for the City of Westminster.

Residents would have preferred that NO signage be permitted on either location, but that ship had already sailed.  The commission approved the vinyl signs on the larger location last March.Since vinyl signage had previously been approved for the large, wrap-around location, all that remained for the commission to consider was the smaller sign site.  They approved it on a 5-0 vote.

Many residents, including Arthur, spoke against the off-premises signage.  Only one resident spoke in favor of it - a grumpy old fella who pretends to be a real estate developer among other things and who lives far, far away from the location in question.  He's the same guy who has badgered The City for more than a year for a sign identifying the so-called "19 West" part of town until the most lame of signs imaginable was finally stuck in the center divider on West 19th Street just to shut him up.

Kudos to Lamm and Greenlaw Partners for recognizing the concern of residents near their center and pulling the request for off-premises signage.  The current plan for more restaurants at that location might make it work.  We'll know in pretty short order.  In the meantime, very extensive and expensive renovations to the site continue and the gym in the basement thrives.

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Anonymous hater #9 said...

who cares? this is not as fun as putting down riggy, colon, bm's, fisler, and baby ethan. stay on subject!

11/14/2012 02:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Disgusted Republican said...

Hater... The citizens of Costa Mesa do care about doing the right thing for our city and us. When that doesn't happen, we have every right to call a spade a spade. That's why, you dim wit, we have so many problems with the current righeimer led cc union majority! Don Lamm withdrew the request for offsite advertising at the Triangle because it was very apparent, based on the citizens' input, that it is not right for our city for many reasons and we do not want it (it's too bad other developers won't listen to us like this-we'd have a hell of a lot less spades to have to call spades then). There is an all too true speculation that had the developer not withdrawn the request, the PC would have either approved it or passed it on to the CC to approve, instead of saying, after the citizens' opposition and the withdrawal of the request based on that, that "this dog isn't going to hunt" and it never would have been approved by the PC in the first place even if no one had spoken against or if the request had not been withdrawn. If you believe that, there's lots of waterfront property in Kansas for sale just for you!

11/14/2012 11:04:00 PM  
Anonymous hater#9 said...

"speculation" by disgusted Republican = guessing.
basing your opinions on guesses is what makes you the "dimwit". Capice?

11/15/2012 04:49:00 AM  
Anonymous developer said...

I will buy that waterfront property! I will have my agent, Jim Fisler, contact you. I read about him here and liked his politics so I called him to sell my home and buy a larger one. He is very busy with all the new referrals right now but will work on it this weekend.

11/15/2012 06:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Marty said...

developer said...
" ..I will have my agent, Jim Fisler, contact you.."

Fisler is running scared. The MLS tells us so.

Crime is up. We can't support those who help diminish the police force.
Hey Fiss- maybe you can help Riggy get a new place in Oceanside.

11/15/2012 09:05:00 AM  

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