Krupp Pulls Out
UNHAPPY WITH CM4RG REJECTION
Unfortunately,
not only has he chosen to extract himself from the political turmoil
that is sure to come later this summer and fall, he basically dropping
out from ANY involvement in ANY community activities.
Based on the items he handed out at his press conference today, and his
comments to those of us who showed up to hear him, he was VERY disappointed when was not chosen by the grassroots organization, Costa Mesans For Responsible Government, as part of the group they recently endorsed.
SHORT-SIGHTED AND SELFISH
While
I do believe that his presence on the ballot would have been a
distraction to the voters and would likely have been an impediment to
defeating the OC GOP-endorsed slate of Gary Monahan, Steve Mensinger and Colin McCarthy,
I think his decision to extract his voice from the debate of important
issues is short-sighted and, quite frankly, selfish of him. I hope, upon
reflection, he will change his mind and return as a participant, if not
a candidate, during the upcoming campaign season.
TOO MUCH BAGGAGE?
GENIS, STEPHENS AND ...KRUPP?
PETULANT? MAYBE...
While
I understand part of Krupp's reasoning, his reluctance to be an active
participant and strong voice in what he acknowledges is a critical
juncture in the history of this city seems a little like a kid who
doesn't get chosen near the top in a pick- up football game, so takes
his ball and goes home. It seems to me that, if he seriously had the
interests of THE CITY at heart he would swallow his pride ans find another way to participate. Maybe not.
8 AND COUNTING
So, we are down to eight candidates with nine days to go before they have to make their final decision to run or not. We'll see how this plays out next week.I'm back, computer is operating again, so I added images. That darn Ipad is too much work!
Labels: Colin McCarthy, Gary Monahan, Harold Weitzberg, John Stephens, Marshall Krupp, Sandra Genis, Steve Mensinger
posted by The Pot Stirrer at 8/01/2012 07:02:00 PM
24 Comments:
I'm sorry to see him go. I thought he had some great ideas, so like you said, I hope he remains in the dialogue. The M's would have savaged him about the goofy parts of his background, but he was sharp, spoke (a little bit too lengthy) truth to power, and I think he could serve us all well with his ideas. Good Luck to him whatever he decides.
I would personally like to thank Mr Krupp for his participation so far. I have read his commentary and in my opinion he has nailed the facts and realities of what Righeimer and his bunch are all about. I hope that his detailed commentary has enlightened some Costa Mesa voters.
The fact is though is that a strong 4th candidate just hurts what is most important to the future of Costa Mesa, and that is removing Righeimer and his agenda from power.
I hope he will continue to point out the dishonesty of the current councils claims as the election gets closer.
Geoff;
In my opinion you spun this the way you wanted to spin it, for what purpose… I do not know. In my opinion, rather than being objective and reporting on what I offered in the Press Conference packet and in my answers to questions which outlined my choice in withdrawing from the election and stepping aside during the election process, you interpreted what I said and offered your own personal judgments.
Let me make something very clear. I am congruent with how I entered this campaign. I indicated that if I did not feel that I could be successful in changing the majority of the City Council along with a slate of two other candidates that I would not go forward with my candidacy. I also stated that the campaign now belongs to those who continue on, and the best way that I could personally serve the Community at this time is to step aside and allow them to fully present themselves so that the Community can make an informed decision without my influencing of the process.
How people judge me or my choices at this time, is for them to look at introspectively. For me, I am congruent with how I said I would show up and how I have shown up. The gift I now offer is to not get in the way of Mr. Mensinger, Mr. Monahan, Mr. McCarthy, Ms. Genis, Mr. Stephens, Mr. Weitzberg, Ms. Lester, Mr. Malone and any other candidate that chooses to file his or her papers by August 10, 2012. It is now there race and not mine.
The Costa Mesan’s for Responsible Government made a choice that had and will continue to have consequences. What now and in the future unfolds is part of those consequences. You can choose to interpret my choices as you wish. However, deep in my heart and congruent with my core values of trust, truth, respect, accountability, responsibility congruency and integrity, I am not walking away from Costa Mesa, I am simply stepping aside and making the space that is necessary for the candidates to shine before the Community in order to enable the Community to make and informed decision as to the future of our City. I am walking my talk!
For those who are truly interested and want to understand my choices around this election and want to read the materials I offered the Press go to www.costamesaelection2012.com. There you will find MY TRUTH.
Marshall Krupp
First of all, CM4RG didn't "reject" Mr. Krupp at all. We simply decided to go with the most electable candidates who have a vested interest in the city. We thought Mr. Krupp would have made a fine candidate for the Water Board or CMSD. We were hoping he'd get involved with one of those. I was under the impression that early on, Mr. Krupp didn't want involvement with CM4RG, so....
CM4RG didn't "reject" Mr. Krupp at all. We made a decision to go with the most electible candidates that had a vested interest in the community. Mr. Weitzberg was not chosen by Robin, as a relative or any other relationship, as it was not Robin that chose the candidates. It was done by a arduous process and a committee and a vote, after each candidtate was interviewed at length.
Some of us were hoping that Mr. Krupp would have had an interest in running for either the CMSD or the water board, and I believe some of us could have gotten behind that. I'm sorry that he isn't.
It was my personal thought, that early on, Mr. Krupp said he didn't want to be backed or involved with any group, either OCGOP, or CM4RG, so.....what can we say?
Nothing against Mr. Krupp, other than we had people that wanted our endorsement and they happen to be excellent candidates for the positions.
I have to admit, I liked what I heard from the guy. Heck, anything is better than what we got. I do think he had some baggage to overcome with regard to the Mankind project. Certainly to each his own and I shan't judge him for it. However, perhaps you could have come up with a better headline than "Krupp pulls out" for a guy who ceremoniously uses a wooden phallice.
For Marshall Krupp --
As a participant in CM4RG, I should like to assure Mr. Krupp that the only reason he was not endorsed was that it was felt that his electability was possibly a hair (RCH, if you are familiar with that engineering measurement) less than that of Weitzberg. He is articulate, outspoken, and charismatic -- and Robin suffered an agony of self-doubt over placing Weitzberg above him, but was overruled by the group. Still, we had hopes of possibly hearing his voice in candidate forums and debates -- it would have at the very least added spice and sparks to the expected violence of the coming campaign. I sincerely hope that Marshall continues to participate in the Costa Mesa political process (?fray?), as his is a voice of sanity and reason, and is vitally needed here.
Geoff and his blog have been around a long time. I trust his knowledge and judgment re city matters despite the fact that he's a registered Repub.
I've never met Krupp but note with interest his recent appearance at and now quick departure from the city "activist scene." He has not yet earned my trust.
He showed a good understanding of the issues and perhaps he'll return and help fight the battles to come. If not, then there are many committed citizens who are in for the duration.
Personally, I think the Mankind thing is goofy but don't hold any of it against Krupp. My dad taught me how to be a man without the use of phallic props, though I have acted like one on more than one occasion.
Marshall,
It appears the operative word in your post is "congruent".....
As a CM resident sickened by the 4/5 of the city council, I appreciate your passion toward it's change. I also applaud your decision to drop out of the race at this time. I hope your voice continues to be loud and strong in our city.
However, your remarks about Geoff are confusing to me. You seem to condemn him for "offering his own personal judgements"......IT'S HIS BLOG!
Again, thank you for your voice and best of luck in the future.
I agree with Krupp. I would be upset too. Here is a bogus organization where the President endorses her own son in-law for office. Where is the neutrality there?
With the exception of Genis who has some, and I mean some, name ID. I think the three M's will clean their clocks in November. Stuff like this certainly makes our votes easier in my household.
Weitzberg or Krupp are both weak 3rd candidates to any slate though Krupp is less of a puppet than Harold. Harold now can be a barnacle like Leece was with Mansoor and hope (big H) he gets brought along into office. Glad to see cm4rg is thinking about san district candidates, those 2 got to go. School Board a little shaky too,could use a change. Haven't heard anything "irresponsible" about water dis & labor seems happy there.
I hope people remember in November who made Bever our Mayor. What a horrible decision that was. Leaders should be judged heavily on their decisions and this one was boneheaded at the very least. So please remember it was Mensinger, Righeimer and Monahan who made the decision and made Bever the Mayor.
RickandJenn, LOL yes you have shown to be fair and open minded in the past. I am so glad your struggle to chose is made easier. Disingenuous and dishonest. I see why you support the M's.
For the life of me, I can't understand why "people" like Rick/Jenn post here for. It's obvious that the people that read and contribute to this blog are for the most part, dissatisfied to say the least with the present council. And while I love discourse as much as the next guy, "they" are not providing that at all. "They" offer no points to support an opposing position. What "they" are doing is simply a smoke and mirrors show, similar to the red shirtted kiddies at the meetings.
Please go play with the neo-Nazi on his blog across the street. Nobody here takes you seriously and you are swaying nobodys opinion.
There's no "RickandJenn," just the race-obsessed blogger sitting in his cave, probably with one of Krupp's special seminar tools..
Uh...R&J, Robin's son-in-law isn't running. How could she endorse him?
Must be Steve M..no attention span whatsoever.
I honestly hope that the M's win. I am concerned for our City.
I think our City would be a better place if this blog did not exist. And a more positive one took its place. One that still challenged on key issues but did so in a more positive less negative and angry basis.
You look at OC Register or Daily Pilot clean up the comments. But not here.
The likes of Sandy Genis and Robin Lafler are not my cup of tea. I think they are nuts.
That gal Marie Arthur is one red faced angry gal bringing emotion into every issues she takes on.
Katrina Foley is still meddling into city affairs. Katrina, leave our employees alone on weekends. Stop calling their personal cell phone. You need to be focused on your puppet candidate. Call him.
My real wish is that the other candidates drop out and our candidates go head to head with your candidates.
If you win, take the city in whatever direction you want. If we win, same.
Re putdowns of Marshall Krupp’s connection with the Mankind Project:
It’s common in politics to look for anything in a candidate’s behavior or background that could be seen as a weakness, then fling it up on the wall and see if it sticks. I can easily remember these examples from national politics:
• Edmund Muskie: A New Hamphire newspaper published a story accusing his wife of drinking and using off-color language (imagine that!) during the campaign. Reporters claimed his eyes teared up over it, therefore he was labeled “weak.” WEAK!
o Decades later we have John Boehner tearing up over many things, but it’s OK now because he is “a sensitive man.”
• George Romney: innocently shorthanded the briefing he got on Viet Nam as “brainwashing.” WEAK!
• Richard Nixon: his 5 o’clock shadow led to the picture of a scowling Nixon with caption “would you buy a used car from this man?” UNTRUSTWORTHY!
• Gerald Ford: trips on wet stairs, so this former football star athlete is labeled CLUMSY!
• Bill Clinton: can’t keep his pants zipped; he lies. DESPICABLE!
• Al Gore: he’s “too wooden;” alleged to have said he “invented the Internet.” UNPRESIDENTIAL!
• John Kerry: labeled as disrespectful for (maybe) throwing away his medals/ribbons to protest the Viet Nam war: UNPATRIOTIC!
I don’t know much about the Mankind Project other than that it appears to be one of the many ways, such as Outward Bound, for people to grow and get better control over their lives. The fact that it has been around a long time, starting in the mid ‘80s according to their website, is evidence that it has been, and continues to be, valued by lots of men. Perhaps there’s method in the seeming madness of running around naked in the forest (if that’s what they do) and holding a talking stick that looks like a phallus (if that’s what they do)?
Logically, if Mankind Project is worthy of disparagement, then mustn’t we also disparage the brainwashing that manly Marine recruits get in boot camp to turn them into fiercely patriotic killing machines?
btw, this is not to say that I support Krupp for council. I don’t. Marshall has many talents, but he’s not best for this election.
I strongly believe that the best 3 candidates for the 3 seats are Harold Weitzberg, Sandy Genis, and John Stephens.
Dreamer, you certainly are that. Talk about negativity!!
The Ms really don't have a chance in November. If you did any precinct walking, you'd know that.
I hope you come back to reality soon.
the egans should realize how guilty the usual speakers, including them,are of "flinging it on the wall and seeing if it sticks". All their dark conspiracies, talk of what "might" happen, talk of bribes, cronyism, Brown Act violations, payoffs, etc. and yet ...nothing. Mrs. Egan waxed poetically at last meeting about what the charter wouldn't do as if that is a reason to not like it. Koken said it wouldn't protect us from nuclear bombs or something so vote no. It won't pay your mortgage either so I guess vote no is the logical answer?
To ifA=B and B=D, A+D=2B
Not that the Egans need defenders, but the comments here are so off base, I feel compelled to comment.
1) Neither Tom nor Eleanor ever resort to name calling or bashing. These two have too many verifiable arguments and too much class for that.
2) Unlike other commentators here, (myself included) Eleanor is uniquely qualified to comment and render an opinion on most of the city's goings-on. If you want to know why, do some research.
3) People need to look down the road at the "what ifs" and weigh the consequences now. Lack of foresight on the part of many has led to some of our current financial predicaments. Most recently, the current Council's rush to issue pink slips. If more people took the Egan's measured approach, we could be a more sound and civil community right now.
I welcome all the well-reasoned and researched comments that appear here. I may not agree with them, but they give us all something tangible to contemplate and a basis for sound decision-making. Thank you, Tom and Eleanor Egan for contributing that repeatedly and consistently.
The two elected officials endorsing Stevenson are Art "Pension" Perry and Jim Ferryman from the city sanitation district.
Marshall, go give that bunch the same scrutiny you broght to city council.
Someone Who Sounds Like Fitzy wrote:
"The two elected officials endorsing Stevenson are Art "Pension" Perry and Jim Ferryman from the city sanitation district.
Marshall, go give that bunch the same scrutiny you broght to city council."
Are Riggy's boots clean? Is Mensy's truck sparkling? Have you polished all of Bever's used furniture? What about Gary's bar floor? No? Get to work sub!
Who's Stevenson? Did you mean Stephens? We can tell how well-informed you are, Trash.
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