Wednesday, November 02, 2016

A Message From Rob Gagne

SETTING THE RECORD STRAIGHT
Rob Gagne, President of the Costa Mesa Firefighters Association, published a letter addressing the current political climate in Costa Mesa.  Last night Mayor Pro Tem Jim Righeimer - perhaps the slimiest, most dishonest politician ever to hold office in Costa Mesa - told the audience at the Council Meeting that firefighters are going door-to-door telling residents that if the candidates they support are not elected firefighters may not show up in case of an emergency.  He described this as being "all about money", painting the Costa Mesa Firefighters as greedy union thugs, only out for themselves.  In light of his nasty, lie-filled comments last night, I think it's only proper to set the record straight.

The following is Gagne's letter, verbatim.


Costa Mesa Fire Fighters Association - IAFF Local 1465
***A Message from the CMFA President***
Citizens of Costa Mesa,
Over the past few weeks and up until Election Day, you will receive numerous slates in the mail by several people running for elected offices. It is often hard to decipher what is true and what isn't worth the paper its printed on. However, if you step back and look at the tone of the slates, you will notice that your Costa Mesa Firefighters are once again being truthful, factual, and above board. If you listen to the tone of the slates being rapidly sent out by Mayor Mensinger, he continuously berates your public safety servants. Why is this? It's because he doesn't want you to know the truth about your decreased police and fire staffing levels, the drastic 42% rise in calls for service, or the money wasted on ambulances that YOU bought and that he and Council Members Righeimer and Monahan voted NOT to use for transporting you to the hospital. This vote was done against the recommendation of CEO Tom Hatch and Fire Chief Stefano. Why is this? It's because the Mayor's campaign is being funded by the private ambulance company contracted with the City!

I can assure you that your Firefighters will always be truthful and put you, our customers, first. We work for you, not dishonest politicians. You may have seen a slate mailed out by Mayor Mensinger showing some of your Firefighter's pay and benefits (with our names included). This is very misleading as the Mayor chose once again not to tell you the whole truth. Every Firefighter on that list is working thousands of hours of overtime because the Mayor refuses to properly staff the Fire Department. There are 63 Firefighters available to work 78 positions. For example, the Metro Fire Station on the North end of town is still scheduled to be closed under the Mayor's plan. The Council has not re-voted to keep it open, but for the past five years it has been staffed with overtime positions. We have 15 vacancies in the Fire Department with that station remaining open. The Mayor refuses to count those vacancies in the staffing levels. Why? To mislead and deceive you. You should also be aware that the station off of Placentia Ave on the Westside now only has one Firefighter/Paramedic. Why? Because the Mayor won't staff the second Firefighter/Paramedic. Some stations have three firefighter/paramedic's -like the station that protects the Mayor's house. Why should Westsiders be short-changed by 50% on their Paramedic coverage Why, why, why? Lies and deception.

This election is like no other on every level. My job as a Firefighter is to protect you and your property. I took an Oath to do that and don't take it lightly. I will live up to that. Please trust your Firefighters. At the end of the election, I can honestly say that the Firefighters have run a clean and truthful campaign. Can the Mayor say that with a straight face?
Sincerely,
Rob Gagne, President
Costa Mesa Firefighters Association

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Wednesday, September 21, 2016

Rants Top Council Meeting Last Night



FITS AND STARTS
The Costa Mesa City Council meeting Tuesday night was a strange one.  First, there were not enough council members present for form a quorum for the Closed Session, so it was abruptly cancelled.
ABRUPT AGENDA CHANGE
A few minutes before that an amended agenda was distributed deleting Public Hearing #2, the appeal of the Planning Commission approval of the Arts and Learning Conservatory on Airway Avenue.  One had the opinion - since a crowd had showed up for that item - that this was a hastily-arrived at decision.  The item was shoved out to the meeting of November 1, 2016.

STARTED SHORT-HANDED
When the meeting finally began only three council members were present.  Katrina Foley and Gary Monahan showed up a half-hour late.

MAYOR'S AWARD
Perhaps the highlight of the meeting was the presentation of the Mayor's Award to Randy Barth of THINK Together Shalimar Learning Center.  Sorry, but I got no images of that presentation.
COYOTES A BIG CONCERN
Twenty-two people spoke during Public Comments, many of whom were very concerned about what appears to be a growing problem with coyotes throughout our neighborhoods.  Most of those with coyotes on their minds asked for a plan from the City and cited many personal anecdotes regarding contacts with coyotes.  One of the main requests was for the City to begin keeping track of coyote reports, even if there's going to be nothing done, so the data can be used to bolster the need for action.  Others suggested closer communication with Huntington Beach and Newport Beach, each of which have coyote problems, too.
ANGRY ABOUT BEING DELAYED - AGAIN
Pastor Mark Linn of the Berean Church, which was a party to the above-mentioned Public Hearing Item #2, spoke with great disappointment because of the shoving out of his issue.  He provided a timeline of just how this process has been stalled for several months.
PROTECTING FAIRVIEW PARK
Kim Hendricks shrugged off the coyote issue and spoke about the need to save Fairview Park by voting YES on Measure AA.  She spoke about the burrowing owl as reason enough to protect that habitat.
DOOR-HANGER FULL OF LIES
Jay Humphrey spoke of the now-infamous door hanger being circulated by the Mensinger/Mansoor/Ramos campaign team - Team Costa Mesa - which is filled with lies and misrepresentations.
SPEAKING OF LIARS
Chuck Perry, one of the signatories of the now-rejected rebuttal argument for Measure Y, the Smart Growth Initiative once again rose to praise the council for their efforts.  Poor guy.  I suspect he had zero to do with the composition of the rebuttal argument, but he is now painted with the same "liar" brush as the others - including Mayor Pro Tem Jim Righeimer and candidate Lee Ramos.
FUN FILM EXPERIENCE AT THE SENIOR CENTER
Charlene Ashendorf stepped up to praise the recent film showing at the Senior Center, and praised the Center in more general terms.
GOWN DRIVE A SUCCESS - NOW IT'S CANDY
Beth Refakes told us that the gown drive for the Marine Wives at the 1/5 Marines at Camp Pendleton was a great success.  More than 100 dresses were donated.  Now comes the candy drive, in which individually-wrapped candies will be collected until October 21st.
ANGRY ABOUT LIES
Tamar Goldmann opened her statement with this phrase, "How low can you go?", addressing the above-mentioned door hanger.  She specifically mentioned the lie about the Smart Growth Initiative being sponsored by developer money.
TOWN HALL THURSDAY
Mary Spadoni told us about the CM4RG Town Hall on Thursday at which Public Safety and Sober Living Homes will be discussed.
SINGING ABOUT MANSOOR
The irrepressible Terry Koken sang a song about Allan Mansoor's previous tenure on the council, including Benito Acosta in the lyrics.  It was actually pretty funny.

WHAT?
Tea Party Tom Pollitt stepped up and muttered something about unfunded pension liability rising.
RIGHEIMER/FOLEY SPAR - FOLEY WINS THIS ONE
Jim Righeimer broke into the flow of comments to chide one speaker, saying "she does this all the time."  Katrina Foley tossed it right back at him, citing that person's right under the Constitution to say whatever she wanted.  She reminded him that he was the only person on the dais to be officially labeled by a judge as a liar.  We knew this evening was going to be very special.
RIGHEIMER RIPS FIREFIGHTERS
During Council Member Comments Righeimer led off by asking CEO Tom Hatch to investigate what can be done about the coyote issue, and told us he won't let his daughters walk the dog in his neighborhood.  He then launched into a full broadside attack on the Costa Mesa Fire Fighters, waving around a copy of an email flyer announcing an event that group will be hosting at TeWinkle Park on October 1st.  He ranted about "overtime" and said he "relished a debate about overtime", implying that the firefighters actually wanted to work hundreds - sometime thousands - of overtime hours because they are greedy.  He told us it's all about money - that they don't really care about the residents of the city because none of them live in town.  This is a chant that's been developing among the lamebrains at the Costa Mesa Public Square for the past few days.  He told us he's not going to let this issue go.  His words were, "I'm gonna expose this thing no matter what happens in November."
Once again, we have a high-ranking public official threatening an employee group, apparently to intimidate them from supporting certain council candidates.
USELESS LETTER FROM USELESS MAYOR - AND MORE
Then Mayor Steve Mensinger took over and asked Hatch to craft a letter to Governor Jerry Brown opposing Proposition 57, the latest iteration of stupidity coming out of Sacramento that is on the ballot in November that will further infest our neighborhoods with early-release criminals.  Apparently Mensinger thinks Brown can do something about it - he cannot.  This is up to the voters.  Nah, that was just another ham-handed political stunt to try to make people think he knows something about law enforcement - he doesn't.  He then perpetuated Righeimer's rant about pensions and labor contracts, even though the City is in negotiations with the Firefighters Association.  It's all about politics.
FOLEY SHREDS THE LIARS
Next up was Foley and her presentation was worth the price of admission.  She immediately launched into a monologue denouncing Righeimer and Mensinger as liars, citing chapter and verse.  She rejected Righeimer's claim that the firefighters are "destroying California" by pointing out just how many of them are risking their lives this fire season trying to keep us safe.  She was priceless!  She also reminded us of the School Board Candidate Forum tonight at the Neighborhood Community Center beginning at 6:30.  She also spoke of the Home Tour, and how it will include the Heroes Hall this year.
GENIS DID, TOO
Sandy Genis also spoke of coyotes and at length about the misrepresentation of facts regarding firefighters and staffing.  She spoke of CARE Ambulance vs. our transportation of patients which has been forbidden by a Righeimer-led movement on the council.  Did we mention there are those who think Righeimer has a familial association with the parent of that company?
UH, OH - HE'S SPEAKING!
Gary Monahan, usually mute when it comes to comments, decided to speak up this time - a big mistake.  He should only speak when he's in full control of his faculties, which he appeared not to be last night.  He demanded that Hatch do something about the coyotes.  He said, "I'm getting serious on this."  Good for him!  He mentioned the Police and Fire Department understaffing and also that he's running for a seat on the Costa Mesa Sanitary District Board.  He politicked against Measure Y, citing that the new senior facility near Harbor and Adams - AZULON - could not have been built with Measure Y in effect.  Of course, he has NO way to know that.  When Mensinger told him not to campaign from the dais he said, "Everybody else is!"
HATCH WILL STUDY THE COYOTE PROBLEM
During his time Hatch promised to address the coyote problem, but had nothing specifically to offer at that time.

3 CONSENT CALENDAR ITEMS PULLED
Three items were pulled from the Consent Calendar for discussion at the end of the meeting.  The rest passed on a 5-0 vote.
VACATION OF RIGHT-OF-WAY PASSED QUICKLY
Public Hearing #1, the vacation of right-of-way along 17th Street near Superior Avenue was guided by Transportation Services Manager Raja Sethuraman.  The discussion didn't take long and was passed, 5-0.

#2 CONTINUED TO NOVEMBER 1ST
As mentioned above, Public Hearing #2, was continued to November 1st.
FAIRVIEW DEVELOPMENT CENTER ZONING PASSED
Public Hearing #3, the rezoning of the Fairview Developmental Center generated some interesting discussion, dominated by Genis and Righeimer, during which some small sections of the language were changed before it passed, 4-1, with Foley voting NO.

BOGUS OVERLAYS PASSED
Public Hearing #4, the Mixed Use Overlays along Harbor and Newport Boulevards, was next.  This passed, 3-2, with Foley and Genis voting NO.

HOME RANCH AMENDMENT PASSED
Old Business #1, the 4th amendment to the Segerstrom Home Ranch Development Agreement took only about 2 minutes and passed, 5-0.
ASHENDORF REJECTED, PARKING SELECTED FOR SR. COMMISSION
New Business #2, the selection of a new Senior Commissioner, moved quickly.  After the council members drew lots for the order of nomination Foley nominated Charlene Ashendorf - an outstanding choice - and Genis seconded it.  When the vote was taken the male majority voted NO.  Mensinger, who was second, nominated Gary Parkin and he was selected on a 4-1 vote.  Foley voted NO.  Mensinger asked about his request to have two more members.  Hatch said they would study it... he clearly didn't think it was a good idea.  Of course, it's not.
MEETING MOVED SO MAYOR CAN ATTEND A PARTY
The final item, New Business #2, was the cancellation of the October 18th council meeting so Mensinger could attend an event honoring his former boss and major campaign contributor, George Argyros and his wife Julieanne.  One speaker ripped into Mensinger for this action, indicating that the business of the city should come first.  Similar views were expressed by Foley and Genis.  In fact, Foley asked Monahan if he was going, because the three of them could run the meeting if Mensinger and Righeimer were going.  She got no answer, but the council voted, 3-2, to move the meeting ahead to Monday, October 17th.  Yet another reason to NOT vote for Mensinger in November.
MORE DETAILS FROM JONES & MAYER SOON
When the trailed Consent Calendar items were heard, the first one was the Warrant.  An unidentified person questioned the legal fees, specifically the long list of items under Jones & Mayer.  She asked if a line identification could be provided for those individual items and was told they could.  This is GREAT news.  Now we'll be able to get a clearer view of how they are spending their time - and our money.
RIGHEIMER'S CELL TOWER BUSINESS
The second one pulled, #4, dealt with a cell tower on a building.  Righeimer left the room because the applicant is his customer.  After the same person as above asked about how many cell towers he has around town, and specifically on the old Bethel Towers, the council passed the item, 4-0.
NO DELAY IN FIRE STATION #1 REPLACEMENT ASSURED
The final item was #11.  Beth Refakes wanted to be sure that this process - the temporary structures necessary to house firefighters while Fire Station #1 is being re-built - would not delay the construction.  Interim Public Services Director Jim Ross assured the council that we had enough engineering strength in-house to manage this project and that it would move forward briskly.  The council passed it, 5-0.  It was a good thing they did - it took a 4/5 vote to not re-open the issue.
OUT-OF-TOWN DEVELOPER POLITICAL INFLUENCE
Finally, the remaining two Public Comments that had been trailed were presented.  Cindy Black stood behind her sign and chided Mensinger for some of his out-of-town campaign contributors - Howard Ahmanson and George Argyros.  She also spoke of the aforementioned mailer, full of lies, and speculated that it was a work product of Dave Ellis, notorious campaign consultant.  She left them with a new mantra to use - "3 to 2, Screw You", citing that this has been the way they operate.
WHERE'S THOSE DEVELOPER BUCKS, STEVE?
Cynthia McDonald addressed the infamous door hanger and specifically as it misrepresented Measure Y.  On that section it says it was secretly funded by developers.  McDonald said that she guessed Mensinger's developer-friends hadn't gotten the word because none of their checks had arrived.  She gave an address to which they could be mailed - tongue-in-cheek - and reminded everyone that Measure Y was created by the people, for the people and was funded by scraping up scraps from people.
FOLEY DEMANDS AN ACCOUNTING OF RUTAN AND TUCKER
At the very end of the meeting Foley again demanded that she get an accounting of the costs being charged to the City by Rutan and Tucker for their part in the creation of the Measure Z, the competing issue to Measure Y, and for the defense of Righeimer, etal in the bogus rebuttal argument.  City Attorney Tom Duarte assured her she would get it soon.  Uh, huh... I'm thinking Foley will not be holding her breath.
TAKING ROVER FOR A WALK
The meeting ended a little after 9:00 p.m - plenty of time for Righeimer to go home and walk his dog, since his girls couldn't do it because of the coyote scare.  Yes, he said that earlier.

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Wednesday, February 03, 2016

Kudos To Neth, Boos To Righeimer And More


STARTED UPBEAT
The Costa Mesa City Council meeting Tuesday night started out on a very happy note with the presentation of the Mayor's Award to former Costa Mesa Police Chief Roger Neth - a man who served this city proudly - as one of the first three officers hired and the second Police Chief- for more than three decades.
NICE NETH PRESENTATION
Costa Mesa Television prepared a very nice tribute video about Neth's career.   Mayor Steve Mensinger gave a preamble and a key to the city.  Current Chief Rob Sharpnack also paid tribute to Neth as he spoke about the core values he instilled in the department and the Chief also spoke about a few of the things of which he was most proud.  He mentioned that the Costa Mesa Police Department was on the cutting edge in using technology, such as the CAD/RMS system, videoing DUI suspects.  He didn't mention the helicopter program which he began, nor did he mention that Costa Mesa provided contract policing for the brand new city of Irvine, instilling those same values in that department.  Many of the contract employees became Irvine police officers when that department was formed.  That City is acknowledged to be one of the safest in the country.
WHERE WERE THE COPS?
It was a very nice ceremony, with some of Neth's family present.  However, I, personally, was disappointed that there were no other police officers except Sharpnack in the auditorium.  That surprised me...
POINTING OUT FALSEHOODS
The meeting fell straight off the cliff following the Neth presentation.  During Public Comments Mary Spadoni criticized the decision made at the last meeting regarding keeping the medical transport situation as-is, and cited chapter and verse from previous meetings where council members agreed to move forward with medical transport - and pointed out the falsehood made previously.
FIREFIGHTER'S PRESIDENT SPEAKS OUT
Costa Mesa Firefighters Association President Rob Gagne then stepped up and also expressed his disappointment.  He gave a history of the steps the CMFA took to help the city with their contract and their support of  Interim Chief Tom Arnold's 17-point plan.  He then directly criticized Mayor Pro Tem Jim Righeimer for statements attributed to him from an Orange County Register article, HERE, in which he made false statements .  In that article Righeimer accused the CMFA of blocking more efficient options, which Gagne vehemently denied last night.
RIGHEIMER RANT
At that point Righeimer flew off the handle and demanded a "point of personal privilege" to respond to Gagne, even though he would have time during his Council member comments segment.  As it turned out, he used BOTH opportunities.  He ranted and raved, saying he found it "shocking" that the Union President would make those statements.  He went on and on.  Not only was it embarrassing, but he lied during his rant again.
TAMAR RIPS THEM
Tamar Goldmann began her three minutes by hoping out loud that there were still firefighters in the house because Righeimer's rant caused her blood pressure to rise.  She then cited Chief Neth for his service and the standards he established.  She mentioned a conversation she had with former Chief Tom Gazsi - now the Chief of the Los Angeles Port Police - in which the performance of the members of the department was discussed.  She observed that, despite the unpleasant atmosphere created by the council majority, those men and women who had not departed continue to perform at a high level.  She said Gazsi attributed that to the culture created by Neth and other chiefs who preceded him.
EASTER EGGSTRAVAGANZA
Beth Refakes reminded us of the current candy/easter egg collection for the children of the 1/5 Marines at Camp Pendleton.

COMPARING CARE
An unidentified person provided a personal anecdote about the difference between Costa Mesa Paramedics and CARE Ambulance drivers, citing the inexperience of the CARE staff.
JAY TURNS HIS BACK
Former councilman Jay Humphrey, who lost a seat on the council to Righeimer by 47 votes in the last election, and a regular speaker before the council was apparently so upset with how the meeting was going to this point that he abandoned the several things he had planned to address and told the council that it was clear that they don't listen.  So, he decided to use his three minutes to communicate with them the only way he could - and he promptly turned his back to the council and just stood there.  He made his point.
WENDY JOINS THE CHORUS
Former councilwoman Wendy Leece, who has stayed involved in city issues since being termed out, also expressed disappointment in the Medical Transport vote.
CINDY'S SIGN
Cindy Brenneman also stepped up to express her disappointment in the council's unwillingness to listen to its staff and the consultants on the Medical Transport issue.  She spiced up her commentary, then simply used the remaining half of her time holding this sign.
HOPING FOR ACCORD
Robin Leffler joined in on the Medical Ambulance issue.  She indicated that friends called her a "Pollyanna" because she continued to hope for a good solution.
INITIATIVES AND MORE
Cindy Black told us "I'm no Pollyanna", then blasted Righeimer, saying, "That is not a pulpit and you're no preacher."  She then spoke of the citizen unrest and cited the Smart Growth Initiative that is in the works and the new Fairview Park Protection Initiative for which signatures are currently being gathered.  She also talked about the meeting Saturday at Fairview Developmental Center where input is being solicited from the public.  And, she encouraged folks to attend the meeting on February 10 in Morro Bay to reject the plan to oust the current Director of the Coastal Commission by developer groups.
CHAD (?) CONFERENCE
During Council Member Comments Katrina Foley mentioned the "CHAD" (?) conference in November.
GENIS ON CMPD PERFORMANCE AND FAIRVIEW PARK PLANS
Sandra Genis thanked the Costa Mesa Police Department for the professional way it handled the recent incident in her neighborhood where a man ran from an accident, fired a shot at police, but was later captured.  Among other things, she mentioned the recent agenda for the Parks and Recreation Commission that included items dealing with Fairview Park, citing the road that's planned, plus the parking lot lights, neither of which are part of the Master Plan for the park.  She also commented on CARE Ambulance response times, then mentioned that no council member may unilaterally decide on a relationship with another agency - that requires a discussion by the council and a vote.
GARY SEES DRUGGIES ALL THE TIME
Gary Monahan addressed CARE Ambulance and his vote.  He said he didn't like the numbers provided by the consultant.  He talked about Sober Living, citing the fact that Costa Mesa has two laws on the books but the courts have put a stay on their enforcement.  He spoke to the drug deals going on throughout the city- a speaker brought it up.  He said, "I see them all the time."  Interesting, no?  He also told us he profiles customers in his gin mill....
ANOTHER RIGHEIMER RANT
Then it was Righeimer's turn.  After mentioning the police action near his home, he went off on another anti-union screed about paramedics.  He reiterated the lie again that he didn't vote to buy the medical vans to transport patients, despite the fact that speakers had refuted his comments earlier.  He told us he was "Tired of this charade."  He said it twice.  He said he's only got 3 years left, then mumbled something.  Can he be that stupid?  Gee, I guess so.  By the way, while we're back on this subject, some of you may not have seem my commentary in the Daily Pilot Sunday on this issue.  You can read it HERE.
CLOSING REDHILL
Then came time for the CEO's report.  Tom Hatch had three issues.  The first was the closure of Redhill from Main Street to Pullman starting soon.  Here's a chart that shows it.
FAIRVIEW DEVELOPMENTAL CENTER
Then he addressed the Fairview Developmental Center issue, speaking that the General Plan would address that site for zoning for re-use should the State actually close it and sell the land.

FRANCIS' HOMELESSNESS REPORT
He then turned the segment over to Assistant CEO Rick Francis for an update on the Homelessness issue in the City.  The following series of slides explains what he told us.  Click on them if you need to enlarge them.
 BROWN ACT VIOLATION?
As the council members began to discuss this issue Genis interrupted and asked City Attorney Tom Duarte about the propriety of this practice - having an item presented without being agendized and having a discussion ensure.  She was concerned about Brown Act violations - this is not the first time this has happened.  There was NO mention of this presentation on the agenda.  Duarte told the council to keep any comments general in nature.  Mensinger blew it off, stating to Genis, "We have our City Attorney's opinion."  The arrogance of these guys is just unbelievable!
CONSENT CALENDAR
Finally, at 7:35, they got to the Consent Calendar and one item was pulled - the Warrant.  It would be discussed later.
FIFTEEN GRAND TO THINK ABOUT A FEASIBILITY STUDY
At 7:38 we got down to business on the only item on the agenda, New Business #1 - Katrina Foley's request for $15,000 for the Newport-Mesa Unified School District to BEGIN a feasibility study to provide more bleachers and other enhancements at the new Costa Mesa High School athletic complex.  This should have been a quick issue - it wasn't complicated until the council got their hooks into it.  This request is simply the starting point - and $15,000 likely wouldn't be the only funds necessary.  Earlier they had approved $50,000 for a feasibility study.  Round and round they went, trying to resolve issues that were not before them.

SCHOOL OFFICIALS AND MORE
Costa Mesa High School Principal Jacob Haley spoke briefly.  Costa Mesa High School Football Coach Glen Fisher addressed the need and thanked the council for moving this forward.  Two "football parents" spoke, also in support of the plan, as did Gay Royer.
KIRK'S INSIGHT
Foley asked Dr. Kirk Bauermeister to come up from the audience to speak to the issue, providing some insight to the school district's process.  He affirmed that they needed the $15,000 and a letter from the City outlining what they were looking for in order to proceed.  He also said there was no guarantee that they would proceed.
FINALLY, A VOTE
And round and round the conversation went before Monahan moved to follow the staff recommendation, but increase the amount to $25,000.  It passed, 5-0 at 8:30.

PEA GRAVEL AND SHODDY CONSTRUCTION
The Consent Calendar items were heard.  Al Melone complained about a couple bucks paid for pea gravel at the bark park.  An unidentified person wondered why we were doing business with Blackrock Construction, since we fired them for shoddy construction on streets projects in the city and resident, and former council candidate Lee Ramos was injured and sued the company.
COULD HAVE BEEN EARLIER
We were out of there at 8:40 - an hour later than we would have been except for Righeimer's rants.  I think I have a solution... the way he waves his arms around when he gets wound up, perhaps we should just have the Sergeant-at-arms handcuff him to his chair - or just slap some duct tape on his mouth.


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