Wednesday, December 05, 2012

Lest There Be Any Doubt...

VALANTINE SAYS IT BEST
The council meeting last night was a tremendous disappointment, as I mentioned in my post about the meeting.  Former employee Perry Valantine has expressed with great skill how many of us felt as we left the meeting just after midnight in a commentary published in the Daily Pilot online HERE.


NO DOUBT...
And, lest there be any doubt about a "new" attitude among those chosen to lead the city, please watch this 17 second video clip from the very end of the meeting last night.  Nothing that happened last night should give any municipal employee confidence that the new council majority is serious about trying to negotiate in good faith with them.

Jim Righeimer - "If we can't, then we can't"
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12 Comments:

Anonymous Byron de Arakal said...

Really Geoff? Is there any doubt that Wendy would be mayor and Sandy mayor pro tem had Stephens beat out Monahan? You're asking the current majority for a gesture that 'your' majority would never have granted if it had prevailed. Hardly seems an intellectually honest expectation...

12/05/2012 07:58:00 PM  
Blogger just wondering... said...

Byron, I am not sure you are correct. There were a lot of people willing to give Righeimer the benefit of the doubt. They really wanted to see things heal and I believe that if the shoe were on the other foot, these people would have wanted to extend the olive branch in a good faith attempt. Don't be so sure of yourself...

12/05/2012 08:39:00 PM  
Blogger Joe said...

Geoff,
Despite the loyalist rap about "your majority," I'm a bit surprised that you were so disappointed. I must be turning into an old cynic- I had no illusions that the gang would do anything other than what they did.

12/05/2012 08:49:00 PM  
Blogger The Pot Stirrer said...

Byron,
Are you addressing what I wrote, or what Perry wrote in the Pilot?
I have NO idea what a Leece/Genis/Stephens or Weitzberg majority would do. After the past couple years under this junta I doubt they would want to hand ANY power to Righeimer and Mensinger. The fact is, Jim held out an olive branch - he said so again on the Bill Carroll show today - and failed to follow through by supporting Wendy as Mayor Pro Tem. He would still have the majority on every issue important to him, but it may have defused at least some of the criticism and certainly would not have harmed him in any way. I thought it might take a couple meetings for him to show his old true self. I was wrong - it took a couple hours into the first meeting as mayor.

12/05/2012 09:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Byron de Arakal said...

Geoff...addressing what Perry wrote and, obliquely, your headline. Rescinding the layoffs, moving to set up a charter commission and seeking a new dialogue with the OCEA are pretty significant olive branches in my book...

12/05/2012 09:12:00 PM  
Anonymous History Channel said...

Earlier commenter:
"How about Fitzy getting up there and actually saying what this has been all about the whole time--Riggy and Mensinger being 'very powerful'."

"A jester, or fool, was a historical person employed to entertain a ruler in medieval times and can also be a modern entertainer who performs at mostly medieval themed events. Jesters in medieval times are often thought to have worn brightly coloured clothes and eccentric hats in a motley pattern and their modern counterparts usually mimic this costume. As performers jesters have used acrobatics, storytelling, juggling, music, and other skills to entertain their audiences."
-Wikipedia


12/05/2012 09:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Brown Noser for Planning said...

Is this Byron guy competing with someone else for a Planning Spot? I thought he had it all wrapped up but seems like he is desperately trying to impress the council majority. Maybe there is someone else in the hunt.

It's kinda pathetic and funny to watch at the same time. Like who can stick there nose the farthest up! Yuck!!!

12/05/2012 10:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Abraham Zapruder said...

Bryon de Hackal used to be a cool guy but now seems ready to take the role of the new Jim Fitzpatrick and lick the boots and kiss the butts of the council majority. Such a sad thing to see a grown man worship at the heels of lowbrow men such as Riggy.

12/05/2012 10:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Brown noser for Planning said...

In recent years -- the last two in particular -- the construct of the Costa Mesa City Council has fomented an atmosphere of government by dictate. The architecture of our city government is today driven more by ideological fiat than public discussion and consensus building. Broad community needs are ignored or jettisoned to grease the grinding wheels of individuals who don't want a soccer field by their home, or people playing in their neighborhood parks.

I don't want to be led by a city council that should you disagree with its policy, or have a different view of how an issue should be handled, smugly chides that you aren't in favor of upholding the law.

I don't want to be led by a mayor so enamored with the headlines of his ideas that he fails to vet them with his colleagues or the community. I want to be led by a mayor with the wisdom and the humility to recognize that there is usually more than one solution to a problem.


Interesting isn't it. What's more amazing is who wrote this and it was written about 6 years ago. It was this Byron de Arakal person.

Oh but there is so much more. I encourage people to go to this blog and read some of his other comments. Today he seems to have flocked to everything he despised back then.

If this link fails to take you to the page with the entry dated Feb. 22, 2007 I encourage you search the post to find that page and read some of the columns. You won't be disappointed.

http://www.itchingpost.blogspot.com/search?updated-max=2007-03-01T19:53:00-08:00

12/05/2012 11:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Bever-UNimprover said...

Hey "Improvers,"
Still proud of you boy, the Beaver?
What a spineless goon he was. The voters finally woke up to see what a D-bag he really was and soon Riggy, Steve and Gary will follow suit.

What's that saying about absolute power corrupting?
Grab a big box of popcorn and watch!

12/06/2012 12:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Disgusted Mesan. said...

Pot Stirrer, you are correct and da Arkal is just showing his recent he will do anything for the betterment of da Arkal.

How he can say what Stephens who is an extremely honorable guy would do shows Byron has a motive. He is disgusting at this point.

In fact Sandy actually voted for Mensinger for pro tem after the Leece vote failed. The minority shows by actions they are willing to work with the other side and Byron's majority says it but doesn't act on it.

I liked the person who commented that they seem to know what the right thing to do is as they state it but then they totally go against what they say they will and know they should do.

Did I also hear Mensinger again cry about how they are Human with feelings too and how their families suffer? How many times did Mensinger and Righeimer and their cronies care about the families of city employees and their feelings calling them union thugs, blaming them for the economy and other disparaging comments etc?

However I am a but different than they are because I do feel bad for their families to have to go through what Righeimer and Mensinger put them through.

Mostly though I feel extreme compassion for the Pham family who lost their son now apparenlty for no reason.





12/06/2012 08:28:00 PM  
Anonymous To Court We Go, Again? said...

Anybody else see how Riggy and his pals plan on taking the City into bankruptcy? Read the article about sex offenders and the bans in local City parks in the OC Register. There are going to be some huge lawsuits against Cities that have these bans in place, hint Costa Mesa is one of them. It'll be interesting to see if the City would reverse this decesion or keep it in place and fight it in court(like everything else they do).

I'm sure the City will get sound advice from the contract attorney or one of the several lawfirms that are already raking in the $$$.

12/07/2012 10:11:00 AM  

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