Feet To The Fire Charter Debate Monday
Yep, that's right - that rowdy crew of journalists led by Orange County Register columnist Barbara Venezia and Daily Pilot Editor John Canalis, will convene again on Monday, October 15th at the Costa Mesa Neighborhood Community Center, 1845 Park Avenue (Lions Park) for their latest edition of fun and enlightenment. Doors open at 6:30, with the formal event scheduled for an hour, 7-8 p.m.
Venezia and Canalis will be joined by Newport Beach Independent Editor Roger Bloom, Voice of OC Managing Editor Norberto Santana, Jr., Daily Pilot columnist Jack Wu and Register columnist Frank Mickadeit as they fire fastballs at Costa Mesa Mayor Pro Tem Jim Righeimer and Newport Mesa Unified School District Trustee Katrina Foley in a debate of Jim Righeimer's Charter.
DUCK! It's not entirely clear what the format will be. With six interrogators on the stage with two victims, er, experts, it's unlikely that a standard debate format will be followed. Based on past performance, I expect something akin to a fast-paced version of dodgeball. And, of course, this is a highly-charged issue, debated by two people who won't soon be seen in an embrace, so it might be very interesting.
What I, personally, hope happens next Monday is that, by the end of the evening, we voters will have a much clearer idea of the details of Jim Righeimer's Charter. I hope that both Righeimer and Foley come prepared, answer the questions clearly and crisply and without any ambiguity. I guess we'll see.
Venezia and her crew have created a new Feet To The Fire website, HERE. It provides you with a little history of the previous forums, including video clips of them. This event will be streamed live to that web site for those who cannot, or prefer not to, make it to the event itself. In addition, the good folks from Costa Mesa Television, Channel 24 (Time Warner Cable) and Channel 99 (ATT U-verse) will tape the event for later viewing both on streaming video and on television.
This event, only an hour, should be a good one. I suspect it might turn out to be a combination of dodgeball, mentioned above, and a food fight. It certainly will be good theater. See you Monday...
Labels: Barbara Venezia, Charter City, Feet To The Fire Forum, Frank Mickadeit, Jack Wu, Jim Righeimer, John Canalis, Katrina Foley, Norberto Santana, Roger Bloom
posted by The Pot Stirrer at 10/10/2012 04:49:00 PM
15 Comments:
I wish Hank Paranian was up there with Katrina.....
http://www.dailypilot.com/opinion/tn-dpt-1011-commentary2-20121010,0,4893334.story?fb_comment_id=fbc_539376649409100_112069386_539416182738480#f1e9cc0dac
she could use the help that's for sure. her arrogance and smirks will be devasting to her.
Underemployed troll attacking Foley:
"her arrogance and smirks will be devasting to her."
Smirks recorded in the 24 hour period between 10/9/12, midnight and 10/10/12, midnight:
Mensy 2,829
Colon 2,827
Foley 5
Kent Mora is a disgusting piece of filth. His responses to the Panian commentary should be a sign of things to come if the charter passes.
His ridiculing Mr. Panians age is insulting to all elderly citizens. He also tried to surmise Mr. Panian is not a resident.
I hope Mr. More and the yes on V crowd know even if Righeimers charter passes they can't pass an ordinace prohibiting the elderly from voting.
This Mora person is disgusting.
What happened to the cries from the V supporters about civility and we can disagree. Yeah only when it suits them.
But she can clean Riggy's clock, with her hands tied behind her back. He's not real fast on his feet. I think she is.
Prediction:
Foley shows up in standard lawyer business suit.
Napoleon comes dressed in Richard Simmons workout suit to match his voice and distract from his poor performance.
Prediction---- Riggy talks about the charter for
5 minutes, then shifts his discussion to pensions, pay, benefits, union thugs, Police Dept., Fire Dept., General Employees, DUI Gate 2012, sign stealing, brick throwing and secret KFC seasoning recipe.
Seniors: I couldn't agree more. Mora is the most ignorant person I've ever seen post, excepting Fitzpatrick, of course.
Dear Colonel - You forgot Sacramento! LOL
Whatever happened to writers being held accountable for the truth. I guess in regards to Costa Mesa there are no rules for truth.
Frank Mcadeit's Register article on V is so filled with misiniformation, lies or false claims however you want to "couch" them.
Here is just one comment where he says to state it otherwise is insulting the intelligence of voters yet he really is the one insulting voters with his false comments.
He says the charter proposal..."is a referendum on a movement led by Councilman Jim Righeimer to rein in spending at the expense of some employee benefits. To couch it as anything different is to insult voters' intelligence."
He then gives three ways it does this..
1) By not paying prevailing wage. Which is an outright lie or ignorance on his part. Prevailing wage has nothing to do with any city employee benefits. There's more here but that's enough fro people to see his ignorance.
2) Voters vote for employee increases over COL. OK fine.
3) Unions won't be able to take money out of employee paychecks for political puropses. Well folks every employee has the option when hired and throughout to change whether they pay dues to the Association or not. It's their choice. Frank doesn't tell you that conveniently.
There is so much more in this load of you know what he spews. But I will stop here because hopefully at the upcoming forum if Frank spews his BS Katrina will set him straight.
foley has the liberal smirk that Biden had tonight. also, Riggy is much quicker than Foley in any public discussion .. quicker than al bundy as they say. facts can be friendly . Riggy know this stuff inside out and sideways. Foley is just there to create an argument without facts. watch and see. it will be obama vs. romney revisited. there will be concise answers for all the untruthful statements made by Foley. can't wait for her to say it doesn't do anything to clear up the current pension deficits. that is like saying it doesn't make it rain. no one ever claimed it did either of those. but just watch, she will drift off to it. the response is already prepared. will be a great trap turning her face red. see : queens gambit accepted.
The Charter is about onething. Righeimers revenge.
Look at this man's history. It's bent on revenge. In the late 1990's he lost twice for FV School Board elections. He then went on a crusade to get those who defeated him. Teachers Unions. He even went before a congressional hearing where one of the Chair People asked him if he just makes stuff up?
Today he is using what could be a good tool for Costa Mesa to get revenge on city employees who stopped his reckless outsourcing scheme.
Can you imagine had these fake leaders done this correctly where we'd be right now?
2 years ago general city employees approved a 2nd tier and to pay their full share and part of the cities share of the Pers costs.
Imagine the savings for the last 1- 2 years we would have had with the Fire and Police doing the same. It all could have been just like the general city employees did 2 years ago and Fire did recently.
The citizens have already lost due to the recklessness of this Council.
I don't think Mora could be more clueless!
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The city was sued by the unions on a technicality and there is an investigation as to whether or not a city union employee botched the technicality, thus allowing the union an open door to sue our city. It was in defense of this that the city defended it's decisions, not because the decision was wrong.
The Unions didn't sue the city over the charter submission nor anything regarding the charter. This guy is so confused.
The employees lawsuit is over the city not following the rules of outsourcing.
I also think the Clerk submission has been settle.
Mora is great for the NO on V folks. I hope he keeps making his assinine comments about Senior citizens and false claims about the city lawsuits.
This is way too imporatant to our city. We have outstanding people who could give us an AWESOME charter. Vote this down and let's consider a really good charter which covers many issues specific to Costa Mesa .
Absolutely this is ONE MAN'S " charter", cut and pasted for his own personal and political agenda and gain only. And the proof is that he did not have ANY citizens' commissions or advisory groups. Didn't want them. That would have defeated the whole purpose of Nero's intent for his "charter". Compare this "charter" with any other city charter in our county and you will find this one man's "charter" is horribly incomplete, vague, and very short on issues and subjects that should be covered in a real charter - and are in other, real charters around our county and else where in the state. This thing is a joke and an offensive insult to the citizens of Costa Mesa and OUR city. Maybe Nero will play his fiddle while his "charter" burns!!! No on V, otherwise he'll be playing his fiddle while OUR city burns!
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