Sunday, July 15, 2012

Hearing Voices?

As  the campaign season begins to heat up I thought it might be useful to review what some of the voices in the community are saying about some of the important issues that will certainly become part of the public discourse over the next few months.  And, no, I don't think these are the "voices" Jim Fitzpatrick keeps talking about.

This listing of recent columns, commentaries and letters to the editor is NOT intended to be a comprehensive compendium, but just a sampling of what some of community leaders, council candidates and others have to say.

I've provided links to each item - just click on their names - and have quoted a segment that might provoke you to read the entire piece.  Enjoy yourselves.  If you have fun with this we might just do it again later this summer, as the rhetoric heats up.

Jeffrey Harlan
Daily Pilot, June 23, 2012 - Annual budget needs longer-term perspective

"And while improving our infrastructure is presumably of vital importance to this council, maintaining it apparently is not. In order to patch the budget deficit to pay for more street improvements, the council eliminated the staff that literally patches our streets."

Steve Mensinger
Daily Pilot, June 26, 2012 - Costa Mesa needs to attract more families
"The fact is, violent crime is actually down. Property crimes are up by 11%, and that is why this City Council has restructured the Police Department in such a way that more officers are patrolling our streets than ever before."

Al Melone
Daily Pilot, June 28, 2012 - Fireworks hurt Costa Mesa

"Every year animal lovers who plead with the council to get in sync with the majority of cities and end this practice of sale and use of fireworks, to no avail. Many of our pets suffer greatly.  But in Mr. Mensinger's universe, that is of no consequence."

Marshall Krupp
Daily Pilot, June 29 2012 - City budget is a step in wrong direction.

"In their zeal to beautify the city, they put the city at substantial financial risk."

Harold Weitzberg
Daily Pilot, March 22, 2012 - Charter opponents are grass-roots people, not partisans
"I am getting very tired of being told that unions are controlling my actions. We are independent citizens who are against what this City Council is proposing."

John Stephens
Daily Pilot, July 6, 2012 - Court decision illustrates charter dangers
"The court's decision illustrates three of the dangers of Costa Mesa's proposed charter: delay, litigation expense and compromised public safety."

Colin McCarthy
Daily Pilot, July 10, 2012 - Candidate is wrong about charter cities.

"Stephens has opposed the proposed charter from the beginning, and his commentary is just his latest scare tactic. But fear and threats of litigation won't work any longer."

Eleanor Egan
Daily Pilot, July 13, 2012 - McCarthy's anti-union piece missed the mark.

"Costa Mesa City Council candidate and Planning Commission Chairman Colin McCarthy's commentary is chock-full of the kind of false and misleading statements and half-truths that give politicians a bad name."

Charles Mooney
Daily Pilot, July 13, 2012, McCarthy favors a flawed city charter.

"Is McCarthy saying that he is against upholding the rule of law? If so, he should check the preamble to the proposed charter he so loves."

Perry Valantine
Daily Pilot, July 13, 2012 - McCarthy spins like the rest.

"Tuesday's commentary by Costa Mesa City Council candidate and Planning Commission Chairman Colin McCarthy is another example of his and the City Council majority's well-practiced skill of fact-twisting and propaganda."

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Blogger Joe said...

Das Riggmarshal has given his troops marching orders to step up their amateur attacks and silly raps- Fisler on Facebook, Dickson and Mensy to lead the charge on DP comments, and their "A-Team," Mr. NoBidsSinceWW2 Fitzy, here on BC. The extremist Wanna Be, Neanderthal Mensa, aka CM's Race-Obsessed Blogger, has stepped up the BS on his end.

My favorite lately is how they're attacking John Stephens as a "trial lawyer." If this is really an issue, then what is McCarthy- a NON trial lawyer? What's preferable- when you hire a lawyer who knows how to do trials or one that can't or just doesn't?

I guess in the world of Riggy and Mensy, less is more, up is down, and bad is good.

One dead and many wounded so that Righeimer can advance his agenda.

7/16/2012 08:11:00 AM  
Anonymous puppetroll2chins said...

Joe is "guessing" again. always guessing, assuming, but never a fact.

7/16/2012 09:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Terry Koken said...

Puppet, troll, 2 chins--

I'm with Tom Lehrer, in that I believe people who cannot communicate have an obligation to shut up. If "Neener, neener, neener" is all you have the capacity to say, I'd urge you to silence, noting that a closed mouth gathers no feet. But if you wish to continue to try stuffing your number twelve brogans into your pie hole, go ahead; whatever floats your boat.

7/16/2012 10:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Lady, Gentleman and Haters said...

Let’s look at some facts that the emotional Haters refuse to share. Here is a link to pictures taken at Board Meetings. Fitzpatrick put this recognition program in place. The community has never been so involved. It also illustrates the Sanford & Sons dress code Art Perry and Jim Ferryman bring to the image of that District.

You decide. Is a jean jacket & flip flops or a bad track suit the way you want elected members to represent you? If not, vote the bums out in November. Vote no on Art Perry and Jim Ferryman.

Fitzpatrick championed Video of Board Meetings and also championed a change in the good ole boys two decade policy to destroy any audio record of the meeting. Up until the leadership of Fitzpatrick, the Board conveniently destroyed all records other than the minutes. Now, thanks to Fitzpatrick, we have a Video record, forever. Now you can watch the Good Ole Boys, for the first time, and decide for yourself.

Now, thanks to Fitzpatrick, we can all watch the deliberations. Here is a link to the last Board meeting

At 56:30 you can see the Good Ole Boys struggle to limit how Fitzpatrick can get items on an agenda. What the Board agreed to in the last meeting was a Brown Act Violation, so Staff had to make an alternate recommendation to prevent the Board from adopting a Brown Act Violation by Policy. Real geniuses on this Board.

Then, at 1:18:30, Fitzpatrick wants to review the policy of a Paperless Agenda. For Fitzpatrick, every meeting brings new ordinances and policy specifically targeted towards Fitzpatrick. This time, Fitzpatrick brings a fact based discussion on why Art Perry has a printed Agenda of almost 500 pages. That’s in the face of a recent investment of our money to buy IPads for $8,000 of tax payer money. But Art Perry is defiant and refuses to comply with the policy and demands Staff print him the agenda of 500 pages. Fitzpatrick also reveals that the Board has submitted for awards and Staff calculated a $10,000 annual savings. Except for the fact that Art Perry demands a paper agenda be printed for him and him only.

Thank you to Fitzpatrick. Up until he was elected, we had no idea what was going on over there in the trash world. Something definitely stinks.

7/16/2012 12:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Your Hate Blinds You said...

Forget the Haters. Let us see what the Media thinks of Fitzpatrick. There has been a great deal of coverage about Fitzpatrick, all positive.

First question is why is Geoff West protecting his lunch buddies?

Here, Jack Wu, in the Daily Pilot, gets Board President Bob Ooten to admit that the legal action against Fitzpatrick is based on a grudge. The Good Ole Boys are pissed off that the good Old Gal Arlene lost fair and square to Fitzpatrick in the last election. The voters voted to oust Arlene and wanted Fitzpatrick to do exactly what Fitzpatrick is doing.

Daily Pilot Link,0,3542035.story

How can Ooten then go on to vote to bring legal action against Fitzpatrick knowing it is based on a grudge? We should recall this guy.

Then, President Ooten is interviewed on PBS SoCal with Fitzpatrick. Watch this video and tell us you do not think something stinks in our city’s trash business. Does Ooten even know where he is or what the questions are? Looks like he has lost it.

Watch and weep

7/16/2012 12:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Mario Puzo said...

And finally, the truth:
Fredo Fitzpatrick confesses to Riggy and demands respect:

7/16/2012 12:56:00 PM  
Blogger valan2 said...

What's the deal with "somebody" hijacking all the recent comment threads and turning them into pro-Fitzpatrick propaganda? Is it a Fitzpatrick campaign (for what?) strategy, or a case of changing the subject to distract people from the real issues? Either way, it's annoying. Stick to the subject or stay out of the conversation.

7/16/2012 01:19:00 PM  
Anonymous No pro fitzy here said...

WOW!!! Clearly, whiny Fitzy boy is starting to lose it folks! Note the buildup of posts right before your eyes. Keep your big mouth running Fitzy! Oh wait, perhaps you are out on another fishing trip today and one of your MANY followers penned these posts for you. Either way, it’s not like you are an authority on character or anything, especially with regard to Perry and Ferryman. Don’t you worry, just keep imploding. It’s fun to watch.

Those of us with any intelligence will be voting IN FAVOR of Art Perry and Jim Ferrymen. It doesn’t really matter what they wear to me. I like their calm, cool dispositions. They have a heart for service, are always approachable and have shown amazing restraint when putting up with you. They don’t feel the need to call the newspapers, go on TV to mock you, or post entries on this or any other blog. They quietly display grace and humility and will be able to win on that. As Leonardo Da Vinci said, “he who truly knows has no occasion to shout.”

7/16/2012 01:48:00 PM  
Anonymous The Twinkie Defense said...

It's official-- Fussy Fitzy is definitely on a Twinkie low, you can tell by desperate comments in favor of him here. Will somebody please send a box or two his way.

7/16/2012 03:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Terry Koken said...

That last got away from me before I could finish signing.

7/16/2012 07:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Terry Koken said...

Geoff --
(here it is again; seems like it got lost.)
Seems to me nobody took note of the Friday the Thirteenth Forum in the Daily Pilot. At the bottom of the page appears a name we all know, if not love, as a byline on a commentary. You may remember him as the charter supporter who, it is rumored, brought his own Union Thugs to enhance the mood of his ten-minute diatribe at City Council, and whose last words as he stepped down from the podium were "Fascism! Fascism! Fascism!", but who is purported to have said a few more on his way up the aisle. I notice that he is now president and chief executive of a different singleton group, probably having been ostracized by the sole member of the old singleton group of which he was chief executive. And we thought Jim Righeimer was the worst of our carpetbagger worries!

I'm not much of a union sympathizer, as you may remember. I have heard the sentiment that "Unions were good once, but they've outlived their usefulness," expressed more than once. I find this sentiment shockingly similar to anti-gun people's arguments against the second amendment... to which I AM strongly sympathetic; it occurs to me that if anyone who bears me ill-will can be sure that I do not keep a weapon in the house, my life and property will shortly not be worth a small hill of... whatever. Once the anti-union folks, like Mr. Dayton, can be sure that the unions have no power, we can certainly look forward to sweat shops, indentured servitude, long days, and unsafe working conditions -- and pretty quickly, too.

I'll keep the right to bear arms; and I'll surely stand for the right of labor to bargain collectively, if necessary with those arms, even though I've never needed that right and have no particular sympathy for it.

7/16/2012 09:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Dayton Doubter said...

More sanity and good sense from Terry K.

Dayton is a lobbyist. Lobbyists have clients- they just don't travel around spreading goodwill- somebody hires them. Who hired Dayton? Was it Righeimer, who gave him the extra speaking time? Was it another council member who might have discussed the hiring with Righeimer prior? Was it a friend or contributor of Righeimer? Who paid Dayton and with whose money?

Anyone know how we can get these answers?

7/16/2012 10:37:00 PM  
Anonymous sk said...

Lady Gentlemen and Haters-

Please do review Fitzpatrick in action at the CMSD Board meeting regarding the paperless agenda 1:18:30 - 1:30:00 and see how he loves to argue. He can't be wrong, ever! He makes requests of staff that are such a waste of time. The agenda is normally 200 to 250 pages at a cost of .01 per page. A staff person just has to hit print.

CMSD had a court reporter come in to prepare minutes up until the last couple of years so it wasn't like there were hundreds of recordings being destroyed.

And Fitzy is the person who originally requested a change in the method of putting something on the agenda.

Fizty likes to tell half a story, exaggerate the facts and needs a lot of attention.

He is full of himself.

I have to comment back, can't let him put a misleading comment and not say anything.

7/17/2012 01:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Hater Mentality Clouds Judgement said...


Actually, when you look at the video, you can see the discussion where it is clearly not Fitzpatrick who request the agenda process. It is Ferryman. The reason he gives is that he does not want Fitzpatrick to specifically be able to put trash up for discussion.

Also, it appears you have cop math issues. When I looked you up, said you did something in Finance. Typical of municipal employees. They forget to factor their own pay into the equation.

The staff report for paperless agendas where $8,000 was spent on iPads to save $10,000. Either the Staff report is wrong or you cannot count.

7/18/2012 01:41:00 PM  
Anonymous sk said...


The request by Fitzpatrick regarding a change in the procedure in placing an item on the agenda began in the fall of 2011. In the June video Ferryman does not say anything about the trash contract in relation to the procedure only Fitzpatrick does.

I was addressing the cost to make a copy of the agenda packet.

and I graduated with honors in my field.

7/24/2012 10:51:00 AM  

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