Assembly Ditches Pension Reform - For Now
PENSION REFORM LEGISLATION TOSSED
Hot off the presses! According to Sacramento Bee's Capitol Alert, HERE, the California State Assembly has decided to "throw in the towel" on comprehensive pension reform - for now.
NOW TO THE SENATE
The bill now goes to the Senate.
WE'VE GOT THE SOLUTION
They shouldn't worry, though. Our leaders here in good old Costa Mesa have the solution - just fire everyone who is, or might be, eligible for a pension now or in the future.
Hot off the presses! According to Sacramento Bee's Capitol Alert, HERE, the California State Assembly has decided to "throw in the towel" on comprehensive pension reform - for now.
NOW TO THE SENATE
The bill now goes to the Senate.
WE'VE GOT THE SOLUTION
They shouldn't worry, though. Our leaders here in good old Costa Mesa have the solution - just fire everyone who is, or might be, eligible for a pension now or in the future.
Labels: Pension Reform
posted by The Pot Stirrer at 9/09/2011 03:50:00 PM
20 Comments:
Pot Stirrer, you sound surprised. Was anyone actually thinking that Sacramento was interested in reforming a system that's slowly bankrupting us? They said they were serious about it, but then again the unions own that town. But didn't Wendy Leece say that reform must come from Sacramento. Sounds like everyone but the 4 good Councilmembers are throwing in the towel.
I'll take our City's current approach over doing nothing any day of the week. Time for real leadership on this issue, not more excuses! That $400 mil unfunded obligation isn't going anywhere anytime soon!!
On that topic, isn't it sad how the Fullerton Police Chief gets paid full salary on "medical leave" That's what the public system gets you. A horrible chief who will milk his pay and retirement and then leave his job. In the private sector, he'd be fired. Instead, taxpayers pick up that tab. What a scam.
when Unions have bought your job in Sacramento, or even as a Costa Mesa City Councilwoman, the last thing you do is go against them. Reforming their pensions to make them sustainable is not in their nature.
Now wait a minute Barry..... that same could be said for those top level BUSINESS men such as the bankers and oil goons. Those guys get severance packages and the GOVERNMENT bailing their back ends out when they mess up big and by mess up I mean screwing up the economy and the lives of the average american. I swear the song your try and get people to listen to sound more and more off key.
Wow- jealous much? You have the choice of free will - you had the choice to attend college! I chose to attend a university and pursue a career in public service. You had that choice Barry P. I will not apologize for my benefits nor will I apologize for the work I do for city government. I love Costa Mesa, the citizens, and my job. So you can stick that up the kazoo.
Union Quilters...how much money did Leece get from any "union" when she ran for council? You keep claiming that she was "bought". I dare you to contact the FPPC, look at the form 460's and tell us all. I am willing to bet she got next to nothing. I'll bet she got less from any "union" than Riggy got from private business interests that stand to benefit when city jobs are sold off to the private sector. prove me wrong, would love to see it. It's all public record.
Barry P is really Stevie M. CVS carries Kleenex. You will be needing much of it come election time. Buy a bunch so you can share it with Riggy.
Other Mike, Leece's money was laundered through Genis, we all know that. This was cronyism, that Leece would reward Genis and her friends and the union. She sure rewarded the Union ! Leece has not displayed the intellectual capacity in many years to agendize items, bring up rules complaints, etc. Now all of a sudden it is a weekly "gotcha" move by Leece against the boys. Who is the queen of "gotcha"? Genis. It is obivious she feeds Leece her tallking points. Unfortunately, once Leece is rebutted on the dais, she can't respond, only shuffle papers, and ask if anyone else in the audience would like to speak, hoping one of her cronies will come up and say the words she cannot form in her brain because she was only coached as far as the accusation, not how to respond further. A total puppet with Genis pulling the strings.
I'm sick of my taxes being taken out to support police & fire! I mean at least 3dollars of my hard earned money goes out to them in taxes every year!
that's 3dollars I could spend at McDonalds!
LOL get a grip Barry...
Union I love the anonymous rocks you throw.
Typical Improver coward.
There's no way to "launder" that money. The forms will show it as a contribution from an individual, a political action committe or business. In any case, it's pretty easy to follow the money. Even if the unions gave money to an outside political action committee, once they gave that money to Leece it still will be reported. It's all pretty transparent. My challenge still stands. Tell us all how much money the unions gave to Leece, then contrast it to the companies and individuals that gave money to Riggy.
The bottom line: every candidate is bought and paid for. It just depends on whether you agree with who is doing the buying and paying. Riggy got gobs of cash from individuals, PACS and companies that agree with his platform, just as Leece got money from those that support her platform. In fact, Riggy's backers have way deeper pockets than Leece's ever will.
We get it you guys hate unions, but that argument is really growing stale.
Wow! Unfunded liability is at $400m now is it? Why not keep making up numbers like Righeimer and make it $400trillion! Dont we all just love riggymath?
Whats sad is barry is the costa mesa council wasting out money to defend their illegal outsourcing scam. How much is it to date? Its like watching a train wreck over and over again. First $3,000 a week lobdell, soon to be $184,000 a year lobdell to now $1,000 an HOUR on legal fees!!!
You mentioning of the fullerton chief. Let me ask you, was he there? Did he cause the beating? Whats disgusting about the whole incident is how money was the only thing that reunited a "loving" estranged father to his mentally ill son.
This just in...Newsflash for Riggy-spin headquarters...........Unfunded liabilities from Costa Mesa pensions caused the power failure....
Riggy---if you whisper something...people will think it's true.
@ Barry Pee....It may be sad....but it's the LAW! If you don't like it, change the law! Ha!
UnionQuilters you are so right on! I noticed the same thing about Leece. Her brain simply can't get into gear fast enough to defend Sandy's sorry position.
Costa Mesa would be so much better off if Genis and Leece took a hike. Both of them are borderline dementia cases and only serve to embarrass the city.
Barry P, regarding Chief Sellers (Fullerton Chief and before Chief at Laguna Beach, Seal Beach, Capt at Los Al and officer to Lt. at La Palma). He is almost 58 years old and could have retired 8 years ago, but elects to continue to contribute. There are federal laws that don't let the city tell you but I will - his medical problems are quite real and potentially life threatening if not treated.
You have a little bit of information which you may be guilty of expanding to fit your world view - Mike Sellers is a high quality guy, highly ethical, loyal and professional.
Barry, you clearly have no idea what it takes to change the culture of or lead a department of 200 plus professional people - not your fault, but your comments are and frankly foolish.
Reagan had dementia as POTUS do you feel the same way about him quilter, or is this another one of you stupid comments full of double standards?
The only one's who need to leave town are Righeimer, Mensinger, Monahan and Bever.. those bozos who are inept at speaking as much as they are walking. Doofus' is the nickname all of us at City Hall call them.. except Dan of course.. he calls them "yes sir"
Mr. Boa is correct in that his taxes would not change much if police and fire took the necessary cuts to pensions. The budget would pretty much stay the same. One difference: instead of letting them "retire" early and then go get other jobs and double dip, we could spend the money on other things this city needs. Either give it to them or use it for infrastructure and recreation programs. The coming elections will show where the voters want the money to go.
retire" early and then go get other jobs and double dip
Examples?
our retired former police chief Snowden (to beverly hills), former fireman Morgan (to Newport Beach) are the first two that come to mind.
In the case of Chief Snowden and I suspect with Morgan they continue to pay their 9% or more into PERS and are not drawing anything from PERS - thus they are not double dipping. They are not retired.
A typical "double dip" is a person who retires from the public sector and goes to work in the private sector or in an out of state public retirement system, or in state a non PERS agency or a county system (1937 act).
CalPERS has long standing rules that keep a retired PERS member from going back to work for a PERS agency full time. Such a person must go back into the PERS retirement system, quit drawing from PERS , and begin contributing to the system again. Part time work is possible while being retired.
Our excellent sheriff is an example of a true double dipper - she is retired from the LA County system and now is working full time in the OC system. She draws an LA County retirement and contributes to a future OC retirement. Can't do that in PERS. If the sheriff became a police chief, she potentially could continue to draw her LA County retirement and contribute to PERS and build a third retirement. Sheriff Bill Gore of San Diego is retired FBI and he is doing the same with a FED retirement while building a second county retirement.
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