Thursday, September 08, 2011

Lunchtime Homeless Workshop Tomorrow

Following the presentation Tuesday night of its interim report, the Costa Mesa Homeless Task Force is presenting a free Housing Options Workshop at the Police Department Emergency Operations Center (EOC) adjacent to the Police Station on Fair Drive. This is a brown bag event aimed at folks interested in providing input on this subject. The following is the text of the Press Release.

Free City workshop on housing options
for homeless offered Friday

COSTA MESA, CALIF.—As part of its ongoing efforts to seek solutions to homeless issues in the City, the Costa Mesa Homeless Task Force is offering a Housing Options Workshop on Friday from noon to 1:30 p.m. in the Police Department's Emergency Operations Center (EOC).
The brown-bag lunchtime meeting, titled “Housing Options 101,” will feature information on:

Housing options: emergency, transitional and supportive housing

Philosophy of transitional vs. long-term supportive housing

Costs of supportive housing

Importance of motel code enforcement

Prototypes: Conversion of motels into supportive housing

This information will be of interest to anyone wishing to add their voice to the development of realistic strategies and solutions to Costa Mesa's homeless issues. This workshop is free and open to the public. The City encourages anyone with an interest in learning more about
Costa Mesa’s homeless challenges and potential solutions to join in the discussion.



Anonymous Park Progress said...

I was pleased to see a commitment by both the Chief & CEO that a security guard will be in place at Lions park within 30 days. I think that is progress on safety.

9/08/2011 11:02:00 AM  
Blogger The Pot Stirrer said...

I finally watched the entire, 8 hour, meeting yesterday and evening. Tough to do with a bum eye. Mensinger tried to back Gazsi into a corner on that issue, but he did commit to a presence there in 30 days. Best solution, in my opinion, is a real Park Ranger, not simply a security guard. We need a LAW ENFORCEMENT presence there,not just a guy to roust the homeless folks.

9/08/2011 11:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Larry Bolsterman said...

A security guard has about has much authority as you or I do and will do NOTHING to help the situation.

9/08/2011 04:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Security - At what cost? said...

Besides. CMPD would fight a security guard. They want dues paying, card carrying, fat pension bodies to staff that.

Perhaps they can shift a body or have Auxiliary perform function.

9/08/2011 04:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Do it right said...

I think this is a perfect example of the council not understanding the dangers.
The officer that ran into the homeless guy with a gun.
A security guard could be in grave danger without proper training and back up.
The 4-1 council wants the boy scounts on bike patrol paid in girl scout cookies.
Take your time ,do it right with the right personnel. If they don't failure and law suits are the only outcomes

9/08/2011 08:11:00 PM  
Anonymous REALLY?!! said...

Security guard? Really? What a waste of money! When the homeless laugh in the guard's face he's just gonna call 911 anyway or do something stupid and it will be recorded on a cell phone which will cost us tax payers 100,000 of dollars. Wise up, get a clue.

9/08/2011 08:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Eleanor Egan said...

We can't afford a park ranger. The Council has just given away the public treasury to a San Francisco law firm! I asked them to put a dollar limit on the attorney fees, above which a further Council approval would be required -- They refused, directing Tom Hatch to pay all the firm's bills, no limit. So no park ranger.

9/08/2011 10:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Eleanor Egan said...

I'm glad to see you're OK and back at your blog. Evidently the surgery went well, and I'm happy for you. Best of luck and a speedy recovery!

9/08/2011 10:18:00 PM  
Blogger The Pot Stirrer said...

Thanks.. not quite up to snuff yet. Took me 12 hours to plow through the council meeting tape yesterday and last night. Still not up to posting about it... too painful. Maybe this weekend...we'll see.

I saw your effort to overlay some reason on the hiring of the two law firms... we just gave them a blank check, and for what? To battle our employees instead of simply inviting them to the table to try to sort out the problems - if there really are any. No, the agenda is clear - the majority is willing to bankrupt this city to make political points.

9/08/2011 10:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Bob Peele said...

Security-at what cost...

You're off your rocker my friend. First there's no such thing as "card carrying"'s not a union, no matter what the talking heads on the dais say. Second, the Park Rangers are not part of the police association, they are part of the general employees association. Only sworn officers are part of the police association.

I guarantee you, none of the cops care whether this person is dues paying, or whatever you want to conjur up. The issue is that a security guard is problematic. If they need to take some type of enforcement action, they can't. Would still need a cop to come down and do it (or a park ranger if it's only a matter of issuing a citation).

The problem CAN NOT be solved by enforcement alone. If it could, it would have been handled by now. I know you will probably go on some cop bashing, evil union rant now, so go ahead.

9/08/2011 11:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Nice try said...

Dear Security at what cost,
Can you please instruct me on where I can go to pick up my alleged union card so I can place it in my wallet next to the NRA, GOP, and LA Fitness membership cards I already own. Also, please explain to me how I can perform an auxiliary function on top of my patrol duties that have now become so massive because of understaffing that I do not have time to eat during my shift or use the restroom for more than 30 seconds.
Your friendly neighborhood patrol officer

PS Park Rangers and other non-sworn personnel are not part of the police officers association because well, they aren't police officers. Duh.

9/09/2011 05:04:00 AM  
Blogger Joe said...

Eleanor Egan wrote:
"I asked them to put a dollar limit on the attorney fees, above which a further Council approval would be required -- They refused,"

Mrs. Egan thank you for the effort, and ALL your efforts to enlighten, but it's clear that these extremists aren't taking requests. All they understand is money for themselves and injunctions. Next time maybe we should just throw dollar bills up on the dais to try and get a better response.

My answer to the Lions Park issues:

Let's establish a homeless feeding station at Balearic Park. I checked with my kids who are now in their 20s and they do not object to this humanitarian effort at their old stomping grounds.

Of course a couple of council members might, but if things get "extreme," there's always an old parking lot at Newport Blvd/20th street..

9/09/2011 06:59:00 AM  
Blogger Gericault said...

Talked to our 911 dispatch lady at the last meeting. Since her position was downsized she was forced to sell her home this summer.

I think it's a bad time to be cracking down on the homeless when we are busy trying to make MORE homeless by laying off our employees.

Just a thought.

9/09/2011 07:34:00 AM  
Anonymous What a shame said...

I was at the meeting and I took Mensinger's security guard comment as just a put down to park rangers. He was trying to get Tom to commit to a date to get park rangers back and Tom kept telling him that he didnt know. Then they called the new yesman chief up and got him to commit to 30 days.

With his smirk and usual condescending tone, Mensinger said, "so 30 days for a security guard".

The city does not have a security guard position, they have park rangers for the parks who carry everything but a gun. None of these jokers truly understand the transients of costa mesa and they think theyre going to solve it with the homeless task force.

People need to realize that the majority of thr transients in the city are homeless by choice. They want to be homeless and enjoy the lifestyle. Whats not to like? A great park, library, neighborhhod center, 2 food kitchens within wLking distance, a sucker on every corner who will give them a buck and officer friendly who theyre not scared of.

An organization in irvine dumps their transients on us at the costa mesa motor in. Now thats creative! People need to sell transients on laguna beach. Their Police harassed them to the point where aclu made them build a transient shelter called the friendship shelter and the city gives 250,000 a year for transient services.

Geoff, welcome back! The council meeting was a joke as usual as they continue to ignore what residents have to say about wasting our hard earned dollars we pay in taxes. I mean come on, close to $1,000 an hour in legal fees to defend a totally illegal outsourcing scam?

John Moorlach didnt care either when he was messing with the sheriffs. How many millions wasted their? How many millions will be wasted here? Righeimer and Mensginer wont be around in about a year and a half to care. Riggy will be in sacramento or dc and messy will never be elected.

9/09/2011 08:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Just Saying said...

The City of Costa Mesa receives annual allocations of funds from the United States Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD). These funds are authorized under HUD's Community Development Block Grant (CDBG) program, which is administered by the City's Housing and Community Development Division. - The new gofer on the 5th floor is paid 50% out of the aboveformentioned monies- someone should report that to HUD because that is illegal.

9/09/2011 12:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Please dont lose our funding said...

@just sayin

Yes we all know Dan Baker is the newest named weasel on the 5th floor. He was a mess at fountain valley and is a mess here.

Geoff, can you please make one of your infamous calls to Hatch to get to the bottom of this so our poor city lose its CDBG funding?

I know they're getting a full time secretary soon to service the councilmen, perhaps he's just the interim who knows.

9/09/2011 02:21:00 PM  
Blogger The Pot Stirrer said...

If you want to post here pick a name or use your own but DO NOT use "Anonymous"... it won't get posted.

9/09/2011 03:35:00 PM  
Anonymous RickandJenn said...

Aren't the legal fees the direct result of OCEA's lawsuit and continued attacks on our City? The outsourcing our City is pursuing is no more different than the outsourcing that Newport, Fountain Valley and Westminster are doing. Stop fighting the change we need. We need to be united as we solve this problem--yes there is is a problem, just look at the 5 year budget projection. Oh yeah, what is our unfunded pension obligation again??

9/09/2011 03:36:00 PM  
Anonymous GetReal,We'reNotStupid!!! said...


Omgoodness how blatent of a out of ocgop supporter can you be?

The high legal fees are the direct result of the illegal outsourcing scam righeimer and the councilmen wanted to implement. We all knkw they're used to backroom deals in the private sector ti sink a company like say...suncal and countless other. However, what they can't seem to grasp is that costa mesa is a general law city and there are specific laws in place which makes their outsourcing scam to their private sector buddies illegal.

A judge will not grant a protective injunction if he or she doesnt think the party they are protecting will prevail in court. The councilmen are doing exactly what everyone expected, throw good money at a losing battle to further Righeimers political career. If you were truly a resident of costa mesa, you would be furious. However, we all know thats not the case here.

Do you really think we aa residents believe anything this council has to say? Righeimers already come out and said the city has money. He claims he cant afford the employees that helen nenadal represents. Thats a joke because her employees which he represents are not the ones who can retire at 50 and 90% of their income or get maasive overtime if any at all. The councils fight should really be with police and fire but they wont touch their pensions because john moorlach already wasted millions on that. Hence this illegal outsourcing scam. They really thought that residents would sit quietly by as they tear apart our city? Yeah right!!!

We're all onto these clowns in the council. We dont believe their fake numbers from their yesboy bobby or their worthless hired yesman bartel who is paid to give them a pers report that they want to hear. We've already heard from calpers and things are not bad. In fact 20% return was just reported.

The council has dug a hole so deep and lied to us so much that no matter how much money they waste on $3000 a week pr guys or $1000 an hour legal services, we will the residents will NEVER believe anything they say!!!

Leave already Righeimer and the other councilmen! And take Hatch with you!!!!

9/09/2011 04:05:00 PM  
Anonymous I Know CDBG said...

Only 20% of CDBG funds can be used for administrative purposes. The City will be audited by HUD and they will find the discrepancy and bill the City accordingly or reduce their yearly allotment. HUD auditors are tough.

9/09/2011 06:55:00 PM  
Anonymous BeavisBreakinTheLawBreakinTheLaw said...

@i know cdbg

Wait a minute...the city breaks the law? Rules, law, ordinances, its all just noise!

Come on, they have a mandate by the people to break the law!

9/09/2011 09:06:00 PM  

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