Mosquitoes, Sandbagged & More
SHORT HANDED, BUT INTERESTING
The short-handed Costa Mesa City Council - Mayor Steve Mensinger and lamest of lame ducks Gary Monahan were absent - conducted their only meeting this month and, although the agenda was small, we had some interesting moments.
SANDBAGGED BY SCHOENBERGER
Early in the meeting Paul Shoenberger, General Manager of the Mesa Water District, made a "presentation" of three items to the council and led off with a summary of the current condition of the drought. Mesa Water has recently told us that we can water all we want on any day of the week. Shoenberger tried to temper that by saying he hoped we would continue to conserve. He also told us that Mesa Water has achieved 3 years in a row without a lost-day accident - certainly an admirable achievement. We want everyone to be safe.
"PRESENTATION" ACTUALLY CAMPAIGNING
However, sandwiched in between those two items was his presentation of the "survey" recently contracted for unilaterally by the Mesa Water Board, the results of which apparently leads that organization to presume that the combination of Mesa Water and the Costa Mesa Sanitary District would serve the residents better. So, the Mesa Board has chosen to place an "advisory measure" on the November ballot - I guess to test the community mindset on this issue. Unfortunately, this decision was made without consultation with the Costa Mesa Sanitary District and, based on recent newpaper articles, the CMSD Board is considering legal action. It seems, based on rebuttal correspondence I've seen, that the consultants chosen by Mesa Water used old data and misguided assumptions. That kind of stuff happens when you don't consult with the other agency when barging forward with a study designed to support your planned hostile takeover of that agency.
SHOENBERGER AS FRED ASTAIRE
During the discussion Council Member Katrina Foley asked Shoenberger some very pointed questions on this issue. For example, he acknowledged that if the measure passes "with a significant number", then it would probably be submitted to the Local Agency Formation Commission (LAFCO) for consideration. Foley asked if the Mesa Water organization had consulted with LAFCO BEFORE the survey was contracted. He did a pretty nifty tap dance, avoiding the answer several times, before she finally boxed him into a corner when he said "Yes".
WHY NOT INCLUDE THE CITY?
She also wondered if the consolidation of agencies was such a good idea, why folding both Mesa Water and the CMSD under The City was not considered. He had no answer for that except to acknowledge it was something to consider.
DEBT? MESA, $20 MILLION - CMSD, ZERO
She asked him about Mesa Water's current bond debt. Again, doing his best Fred Astaire imitation, he toe-danced around an answer, stating that Mesa was Triple A rated. She persisted and he finally told us that Mesa Water currently has $20 million in debt. She asked him about the CMSD, and he said he believed it had no debt. Uh, huh...
A STEALTH PRESENTATION
It was clear by the end of this "presentation" that Shoenberger was using this opportunity to influence the public to think positively about their ballot measure. No mention was made about the cost to ratepayers to place the issue on the ballot and to advertise it - estimated by some informed sources to be a combined total of $150,000! Foley and Sandra Genis both suggested that Mesa Water should be given an opportunity to respond on this issue at a subsequent meeting.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
During Public Comments Charlene Cass complained about the construction at the Santa Ana Country Club and was advised by Mayor Pro Tem Jim Righeimer that the City has no jurisdiction over that location, but staff would contact them about being a good neighbor.
Jay Humphrey complimented City Clerk Brenda Green and her staff for the outstanding work they have done with all the initiatives this year.
Beth Refakes reminded us of the dress drive for the women of the 1/5 Marines at Camp Pendleton. Donated dresses are being collected to help them for the Marine Corps Ball, coming up in October. She also told the council that the Military Affairs Team recently helped freshen up the paint on the airplane at Lions Park.
Cindy Black complained about several properties owned by Barry Saywitz which, apparently, are now part of a sober living organization. She showed photos of the misuse of the property. She also showed evidence that those properties were supposed to be affordable rental units and had received a density bonus when built. Righeimer said the staff will investigate because that's a federal crime.
Kim Hendricks addressed the inadequate application for the Parks & Recreation Commission submitted by Julie Mercurio, then showed images of Fairview Park to emphasize the need for its protection by the citizen-initiated initiative.
Greg Thunnel raked the council over the coals for bad ideas.
A person calling herself Sharknado used a shark-oriented graphic to make a point about how the sharks (developers and others) were circling the city.
Paul Nelson spoke about his concern for aerial spraying for mosquitoes.
Wendy Leece told us the District Attorney rejected her request for an investigation of what she perceived as a Brown Act violation during the approval of the district voting measure, and implied she's not done with this issue.
Teresa Drain reminded us of the 4-year anniversary celebration of the First Friday Road Show this coming Friday evening beginning at 5:30 in the City Hall parking lot.
Mary Hanna complained about the mosquitoes.
An unidentified speaker complained about Mensinger's behavior on the dais and urged folks to consider it when voting.
An unidentified man complained about parking in the Coolidge/Paularino area. He was advised to speak with city staff about resident-only parking.
Robin Leffler addressed Shoenberger's presentation and suggested The City invite a member from CMSD to speak to it, too.
Steve Klein, daughter in his arms, expressed concern about mosquitoes and West Nile Virus.
GENIS ON MOSQUITOES AND MORE
During Council Member Comments Genis led off with a lengthy presentation about the mosquito issue. She is the city representative on the Vector Control Board and provided a good summary of the actions being taken by that organization to abate the problems. The ponds at Fairview Park are a particular issue. The following slides will be helpful to you, especially the important telephone numbers. Remember, NO standing water and report dead birds. She also observed about Shoenberger's presentation and suggested the CMSD be given equal time.
RIGHEIMER WHINED ABOUT BEING ATTACKED
Righeimer was up next, told us he just returned from vacation and said he was disappointed people continue to attack council members. He said, "Let's just get through November." Well, yeah! He wants his pals elected so he can continue to run roughshod over the City. A note: He was more mellow, more jovial, last night. Perhaps because he was outnumbered for a change.
FOLEY WAS NOT HAPPY
Foley reminded folks about the OC Fair and thanked Mrs. Hanna for opening her home for a neighborhood meeting on the mosquito issue. She agreed with Genis on the Mesa Water issue. She asked CEO Tom Hatch if that issue had been discussed in the liaison meetings with the Special Districts? He said, "Not yet". She also spoke on the "impartial analysis" presented for certain ballot measures, observing that at least one of them was far from impartial. City Attorney Tom Duarte indicated that the City Attorney's officer prepared them and nobody had input in that analysis.
HATCH
CEO Hatch, spoke at length about the mosquito problem, the meeting held and the plans in place to attack the issue. Information will be posted on the City website soon. We also learned that a full-time staffer will be hired to oversee those kind of issues at Fairview Park.
PLOW THEM AND FILL THEM!
Righeimer observed that the ponds were not "natural", and that he'd be interested in having them plowed and filled if the current measures don't resolve the mosquito issue. That's right... sounds like a perfect excuse to place some playing fields down there, doesn't it?
IF YOU LISTEN LONG ENOUGH...
He then said something, while addressing the federal grants used to accomplish the pools, that I also thought was very telling. He was complaining that when we use federal money we lose control of the area - that they require us to fence it off and can't even build bridges over the ponds to bird-watch - mentioning that his wife is a bird-watcher. Then he said, "Always be aware that when someone brings you money there's something attached to it." Really, Jimbo! You mean like campaign contributions, for example?
CONSENT CALENDAR
Seven items were pulled by the public from the Consent Calendar. The rest were passed on one vote and those seven were trailed to the end. All of those passed with very little substantive discussion. One person pulled most of them, usually because she didn't understand the issues.
BIKE COMMITTEE GETS A SHOT AT THIS ONE
Public Hearing #1, the vacation of right-of-way near a project bordered by Pomona Street, 17th Street and Superior Avenue. What should have been a short, pretty routine issue, evolved into a long discussion about the policy and sequence in which these things - there have been MANY such vacations of rights-of-way in recent years - should happen. Eventually, when the vote was called it failed, 2-1. Such issues require a majority council vote, which meant a 3-0 vote last night. Because these kind of things should be heard by the Bicycle and Walkability Committee first, it was decided - on a 3-0 vote - to bring it back on September 20th and the committee will have it on their agenda on September 7th.
LITIGATION FORCES CONTINUANCE
Next was Public Hearing #2, the appeal of the Planning Commission approval of a permit for a Conservatory at property at 3184 Airway, near John Wayne Airport, in an industrial park. This one got very interesting very quickly when the lawyer representing the Koll-Irvine Center Association told the council that it could not vote on this because the two issues were the jurisdiction of the Association, not the council. The Association OWNS the common areas, including the parking, so the council COULD NOT require or approve any shared parking plan. The discussion went on for an hour before Foley requested a break to consult with Duarte due to pending litigation. When they returned they voted to continue the item to September 20th to give the attorneys time to evaluate the issue - apparently a huge packet of information had been provided to the council that evening. The folks from the Berean Church - who planned to sell the property to the Conservatory folks - were there in large numbers again, just as they were when the Planning Commission heard the item , and were not happy about not being able to address the Council on the issue.
NEW SIGN RULES STILL CONFUSING
Old Business #1, the new rules for campaign signs, was back for a second reading and, again, this should have been a no-brainer, but it wasn't. They ended up voting twice, and that was after hearing reasoning from staff about why banners could not be considered this time around. Once again, just as it was the first time around, this issue was very confusing. So much so that I still don't know exactly what they approved. I'll research it later and tell you. We DO know that campaign signs may be up to 5 feet square and a maximum 6 feet height above grade. And, we do know that they may be displayed for six weeks before an election and must be removed 10 days after. I think...
CHARLE STREET SMALL LOT DEVELOPMENT
Next came New Business #1, the General Plan Screening for the small lot development at 1974 Charle Street. This project reduces traffic by 90% and does a flip-flop on the parking requirements. Instead of one car in a garage and two outside spaces, this plan reverses that, with two in the garage and one outside. The council voted to move it forward.
IT SEEMED LONGER
Following the consideration of the trailed Consent Calendar items Righeimer adjourned the meeting at 10:10. The next meeting will be on September 6th.
The short-handed Costa Mesa City Council - Mayor Steve Mensinger and lamest of lame ducks Gary Monahan were absent - conducted their only meeting this month and, although the agenda was small, we had some interesting moments.
SANDBAGGED BY SCHOENBERGER
Early in the meeting Paul Shoenberger, General Manager of the Mesa Water District, made a "presentation" of three items to the council and led off with a summary of the current condition of the drought. Mesa Water has recently told us that we can water all we want on any day of the week. Shoenberger tried to temper that by saying he hoped we would continue to conserve. He also told us that Mesa Water has achieved 3 years in a row without a lost-day accident - certainly an admirable achievement. We want everyone to be safe.
"PRESENTATION" ACTUALLY CAMPAIGNING
However, sandwiched in between those two items was his presentation of the "survey" recently contracted for unilaterally by the Mesa Water Board, the results of which apparently leads that organization to presume that the combination of Mesa Water and the Costa Mesa Sanitary District would serve the residents better. So, the Mesa Board has chosen to place an "advisory measure" on the November ballot - I guess to test the community mindset on this issue. Unfortunately, this decision was made without consultation with the Costa Mesa Sanitary District and, based on recent newpaper articles, the CMSD Board is considering legal action. It seems, based on rebuttal correspondence I've seen, that the consultants chosen by Mesa Water used old data and misguided assumptions. That kind of stuff happens when you don't consult with the other agency when barging forward with a study designed to support your planned hostile takeover of that agency.
SHOENBERGER AS FRED ASTAIRE
During the discussion Council Member Katrina Foley asked Shoenberger some very pointed questions on this issue. For example, he acknowledged that if the measure passes "with a significant number", then it would probably be submitted to the Local Agency Formation Commission (LAFCO) for consideration. Foley asked if the Mesa Water organization had consulted with LAFCO BEFORE the survey was contracted. He did a pretty nifty tap dance, avoiding the answer several times, before she finally boxed him into a corner when he said "Yes".
WHY NOT INCLUDE THE CITY?
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DEBT? MESA, $20 MILLION - CMSD, ZERO
She asked him about Mesa Water's current bond debt. Again, doing his best Fred Astaire imitation, he toe-danced around an answer, stating that Mesa was Triple A rated. She persisted and he finally told us that Mesa Water currently has $20 million in debt. She asked him about the CMSD, and he said he believed it had no debt. Uh, huh...
A STEALTH PRESENTATION
It was clear by the end of this "presentation" that Shoenberger was using this opportunity to influence the public to think positively about their ballot measure. No mention was made about the cost to ratepayers to place the issue on the ballot and to advertise it - estimated by some informed sources to be a combined total of $150,000! Foley and Sandra Genis both suggested that Mesa Water should be given an opportunity to respond on this issue at a subsequent meeting.
PUBLIC COMMENTS
During Public Comments Charlene Cass complained about the construction at the Santa Ana Country Club and was advised by Mayor Pro Tem Jim Righeimer that the City has no jurisdiction over that location, but staff would contact them about being a good neighbor.
Jay Humphrey complimented City Clerk Brenda Green and her staff for the outstanding work they have done with all the initiatives this year.
Beth Refakes reminded us of the dress drive for the women of the 1/5 Marines at Camp Pendleton. Donated dresses are being collected to help them for the Marine Corps Ball, coming up in October. She also told the council that the Military Affairs Team recently helped freshen up the paint on the airplane at Lions Park.
Cindy Black complained about several properties owned by Barry Saywitz which, apparently, are now part of a sober living organization. She showed photos of the misuse of the property. She also showed evidence that those properties were supposed to be affordable rental units and had received a density bonus when built. Righeimer said the staff will investigate because that's a federal crime.
Kim Hendricks addressed the inadequate application for the Parks & Recreation Commission submitted by Julie Mercurio, then showed images of Fairview Park to emphasize the need for its protection by the citizen-initiated initiative.
Greg Thunnel raked the council over the coals for bad ideas.
A person calling herself Sharknado used a shark-oriented graphic to make a point about how the sharks (developers and others) were circling the city.
Paul Nelson spoke about his concern for aerial spraying for mosquitoes.
Wendy Leece told us the District Attorney rejected her request for an investigation of what she perceived as a Brown Act violation during the approval of the district voting measure, and implied she's not done with this issue.
Teresa Drain reminded us of the 4-year anniversary celebration of the First Friday Road Show this coming Friday evening beginning at 5:30 in the City Hall parking lot.
Mary Hanna complained about the mosquitoes.
An unidentified speaker complained about Mensinger's behavior on the dais and urged folks to consider it when voting.
An unidentified man complained about parking in the Coolidge/Paularino area. He was advised to speak with city staff about resident-only parking.
Robin Leffler addressed Shoenberger's presentation and suggested The City invite a member from CMSD to speak to it, too.
Steve Klein, daughter in his arms, expressed concern about mosquitoes and West Nile Virus.
GENIS ON MOSQUITOES AND MORE
During Council Member Comments Genis led off with a lengthy presentation about the mosquito issue. She is the city representative on the Vector Control Board and provided a good summary of the actions being taken by that organization to abate the problems. The ponds at Fairview Park are a particular issue. The following slides will be helpful to you, especially the important telephone numbers. Remember, NO standing water and report dead birds. She also observed about Shoenberger's presentation and suggested the CMSD be given equal time.
RIGHEIMER WHINED ABOUT BEING ATTACKED
Righeimer was up next, told us he just returned from vacation and said he was disappointed people continue to attack council members. He said, "Let's just get through November." Well, yeah! He wants his pals elected so he can continue to run roughshod over the City. A note: He was more mellow, more jovial, last night. Perhaps because he was outnumbered for a change.
FOLEY WAS NOT HAPPY
Foley reminded folks about the OC Fair and thanked Mrs. Hanna for opening her home for a neighborhood meeting on the mosquito issue. She agreed with Genis on the Mesa Water issue. She asked CEO Tom Hatch if that issue had been discussed in the liaison meetings with the Special Districts? He said, "Not yet". She also spoke on the "impartial analysis" presented for certain ballot measures, observing that at least one of them was far from impartial. City Attorney Tom Duarte indicated that the City Attorney's officer prepared them and nobody had input in that analysis.
HATCH
CEO Hatch, spoke at length about the mosquito problem, the meeting held and the plans in place to attack the issue. Information will be posted on the City website soon. We also learned that a full-time staffer will be hired to oversee those kind of issues at Fairview Park.
PLOW THEM AND FILL THEM!
Righeimer observed that the ponds were not "natural", and that he'd be interested in having them plowed and filled if the current measures don't resolve the mosquito issue. That's right... sounds like a perfect excuse to place some playing fields down there, doesn't it?
IF YOU LISTEN LONG ENOUGH...
He then said something, while addressing the federal grants used to accomplish the pools, that I also thought was very telling. He was complaining that when we use federal money we lose control of the area - that they require us to fence it off and can't even build bridges over the ponds to bird-watch - mentioning that his wife is a bird-watcher. Then he said, "Always be aware that when someone brings you money there's something attached to it." Really, Jimbo! You mean like campaign contributions, for example?
CONSENT CALENDAR
Seven items were pulled by the public from the Consent Calendar. The rest were passed on one vote and those seven were trailed to the end. All of those passed with very little substantive discussion. One person pulled most of them, usually because she didn't understand the issues.
BIKE COMMITTEE GETS A SHOT AT THIS ONE
Public Hearing #1, the vacation of right-of-way near a project bordered by Pomona Street, 17th Street and Superior Avenue. What should have been a short, pretty routine issue, evolved into a long discussion about the policy and sequence in which these things - there have been MANY such vacations of rights-of-way in recent years - should happen. Eventually, when the vote was called it failed, 2-1. Such issues require a majority council vote, which meant a 3-0 vote last night. Because these kind of things should be heard by the Bicycle and Walkability Committee first, it was decided - on a 3-0 vote - to bring it back on September 20th and the committee will have it on their agenda on September 7th.
LITIGATION FORCES CONTINUANCE
Next was Public Hearing #2, the appeal of the Planning Commission approval of a permit for a Conservatory at property at 3184 Airway, near John Wayne Airport, in an industrial park. This one got very interesting very quickly when the lawyer representing the Koll-Irvine Center Association told the council that it could not vote on this because the two issues were the jurisdiction of the Association, not the council. The Association OWNS the common areas, including the parking, so the council COULD NOT require or approve any shared parking plan. The discussion went on for an hour before Foley requested a break to consult with Duarte due to pending litigation. When they returned they voted to continue the item to September 20th to give the attorneys time to evaluate the issue - apparently a huge packet of information had been provided to the council that evening. The folks from the Berean Church - who planned to sell the property to the Conservatory folks - were there in large numbers again, just as they were when the Planning Commission heard the item , and were not happy about not being able to address the Council on the issue.
NEW SIGN RULES STILL CONFUSING
Old Business #1, the new rules for campaign signs, was back for a second reading and, again, this should have been a no-brainer, but it wasn't. They ended up voting twice, and that was after hearing reasoning from staff about why banners could not be considered this time around. Once again, just as it was the first time around, this issue was very confusing. So much so that I still don't know exactly what they approved. I'll research it later and tell you. We DO know that campaign signs may be up to 5 feet square and a maximum 6 feet height above grade. And, we do know that they may be displayed for six weeks before an election and must be removed 10 days after. I think...
CHARLE STREET SMALL LOT DEVELOPMENT
Next came New Business #1, the General Plan Screening for the small lot development at 1974 Charle Street. This project reduces traffic by 90% and does a flip-flop on the parking requirements. Instead of one car in a garage and two outside spaces, this plan reverses that, with two in the garage and one outside. The council voted to move it forward.
IT SEEMED LONGER
Following the consideration of the trailed Consent Calendar items Righeimer adjourned the meeting at 10:10. The next meeting will be on September 6th.
Labels: City Council, Jim Righeimer, Katrina Foley, Mesa Water District, Mosquito, Paul Shoenberger, Sandy Genis, West Nile Virus
12 Comments:
So the little dicktator doesn't like it when citizens question his edicts.
Too bad, Rignochio. Step down, go back to acting school.
A meeting where the guys didn't show up, a meeting with no Steve and Gary and the next meeting is canceled - and both Steve and Gary want to be elected officials. Isn't it too much trouble? Gary didn't even bother to attend meetings when he was the city's rep. on Vector Control.
Did anyone notice the huge jagged boulders being placed along the sides of the new bike path going down Harbor? These look very dangerous. If someone were to fall off their bike, they'd die. Is it really necessary to have those jagged rocks out there? There must be something softer to land on should some one have to.
This was a stupid idea.
I think the jagged rocks are why the cost is so high. An ordinary bike path with some landscaping shouldn't cost as much as the city is paying. Whoever is selling and installing boulders is making a lot of money on the medians and bikepath.
More importantly did the path NEED to be replaced?
The Mesa Water guy is a no-good trickster, who is trying to pull the wool over the eyes of the people. He must have borrowed the playbook from Riggy and Mayor Mongo.
Chris, it really didn't. There is so much more important things in this city to spend money on. Our self insurance fund is 7 million in the red, and we are buying rocks.
Re: DP article about mosquitoes in Costa Mesa. It's as if Sandy's presentation to the city council didn't exist. The problem mosquitoes are NOT coming from the ponds. To go to Jim for information is ridiculous.
Corollary 45 to Murphy's Law states: "Add a teaspoonful of wine to a barrel of sewage, you get sewage. Add a teaspoonful of sewage to a barrel of wine, you get sewage."
Sounds to me as though the sewage is being spewed by the water district. The only reasonably good guy on that board is Fred Bockmiller -- the others are all politicians -- whom Eric Bever tried to challenge for election when he termed out of City Council. Yesus Murphy, an outfit with 20 million in debt wants to combine itself with a sewage and garbage disposal board that is debt-free? It really doesn't take a terribly good memory to recollect that a short time ago, some city councilMEN attempted an assault on CR&R's contract for the garbage.
And, in addition, let's all remember that the Goat Hill Model Railroad has a lease on its track and land coming up for renewal in something like eight months.
But aside from all this, November is coming up in fifteen weeks. REMEMBER IN NOVEMBER!!
The CFO of Mesa Water is also the Mayor of Lake Forest, who very recently was almost recalled because he and two other Council Members choose developers over residents, appoint their friends to committees, call out residents, are rude and cut them off while speaking at Council meetings, numerous Brown Act violation allegations. Sounds just like a certain City we all know, and when looking at said Mayors campaign page, guess who endorsed this guy? You guessed it-Riggy, Mensy, Gary, and Alan Mansoor.
Whoops. Can't say I MISSPOKE, but I made a mistake in the last post. The OCME lease on the train tracks in Fairview Park will expire on
17TH SEPTEMBER 2018
So there are almost twenty-five months left on it... Righeimer will still (just barely) be on the Council when it comes up again...
...If he doesn't die, get recalled, resign, or go to jail before then. 'Nuff said.
Does anybody know if Alan Mansewer has moved back to Costa Mesa yet? Maybe he can get a long-term rental at one of the "problem motels"...
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